View Poll Results: Should the law be changed so that gays can serve openly in the military.

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  • Yes, but after the Pentagon completes it study on the issue

    11 5.07%
  • No, do not change the law

    14 6.45%
  • No, DADT should be repealed and gays not allowed to serve at all

    104 47.93%
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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Which has what to do with what? Are you implying somehow that gay women are really men? Do you think 25 people in her unit are gay? Do you think it is unlikely that she is going to share berthing with gays under current rules?
    i'm not implying anything, I asked a question. Why do we house women and men separately in the military?

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    i'm not implying anything, I asked a question. Why do we house women and men separately in the military?
    because the military doesnt support free love

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    i'm not implying anything, I asked a question. Why do we house women and men separately in the military?
    To prevent pregnancy?
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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    To prevent pregnancy?
    It has nothing to do with mitigating the chances of sexual harassment or assault?

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It has nothing to do with mitigating the chances of sexual harassment or assault?
    There are rules against both that are strenuously enforced. Gays are currently living with those of the same sex, in the military, and largely without incident. Why do you think this would change?
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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    and largely without incident.
    What is "largely without incident" do you have numbers to support? What number of sexual harassment and assaults is acceptable? Is the military free of sexual harassment and assault, either opposite or same sex?

    Regardless, no one has actually answered my question....should a newly arrived 18 year old female be housed with males?
    Last edited by mac; 06-22-10 at 07:20 PM.

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What is "largely without incident" do you have numbers to support? What number of sexual harassment and assaults is acceptable? Is the military free of sexual harassment and assault, either opposite or same sex?

    Regardless, no one has actually answered my question....should a newly arrived 18 year old female be housed with males?
    It means that with people, there will be some incidents. People make mistakes, and young people make more mistakes than older people. Since out military is made up of young people, there are going to be people, strait and gay, who do sexually harass people. We train people on the subject, punish people who still cannot manage, and for the most part are consistent in our handling it. It is similar to drug and alcohol issues in the military. Yes, there are issues, but not to the point of reducing readiness.

    The military strives for zero incidence of sexual harassment. No incident is acceptable. That does not mean that incidents won't happen. They will. We still strive for perfection.
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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It means that with people, there will be some incidents. People make mistakes, and young people make more mistakes than older people. Since out military is made up of young people, there are going to be people, strait and gay, who do sexually harass people. We train people on the subject, punish people who still cannot manage, and for the most part are consistent in our handling it. It is similar to drug and alcohol issues in the military. Yes, there are issues, but not to the point of reducing readiness.

    The military strives for zero incidence of sexual harassment. No incident is acceptable. That does not mean that incidents won't happen. They will. We still strive for perfection.
    And what is the definition of sexual harrasment? But please, answer the original question...is it acceptable to force an 18 year old female into living with males?

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And what is the definition of sexual harrasment? But please, answer the original question...is it acceptable to force an 18 year old female into living with males?

    You can't do google searches?

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    Re: Gays in the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And what is the definition of sexual harassment? But please, answer the original question...is it acceptable to force an 18 year old female into living with males?
    Explain why it wouldn't be, in the situation you describe. If the males can’t keep to themselves, they shouldn’t be there anyway.

    Also, explain why this hypothetical female would be the only female in the housing unit.
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