View Poll Results: Which of the following Libertarian Party Issues do you support(Libertarian only vote)

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  • Laissez Faire capitalism

    31 70.45%
  • End drug prohibition

    42 95.45%
  • avoid interventionism in foreign polic

    29 65.91%
  • End foreign aid

    30 68.18%
  • End gun bans

    37 84.09%
  • Deregulate healthcare

    32 72.73%
  • Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)

    15 34.09%
  • End welfare

    30 68.18%
  • Allow opting out of Social Security

    37 84.09%
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Thread: Libertarian Issues-Libertarians only please vote

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    Re: Libertarian Issues-Libertarians only please vote

    I dont believe in part politics, i see it as a canser.
    With that statement you might be able to judge if im a "L" or "l".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Microsoft has a 90 year copyright on all versions of Windows.

    Anyone that tries to improve and sell a better/customized/different copy of Windows anything will be infringing on their copyright.

    Microsoft has a government granted monopoly.
    That's like saying that laws preventing theft give car owners a government-granted monopoly over their vehicle. IP is property, monopoly applies to markets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    That's like saying that laws preventing theft give car owners a government-granted monopoly over their vehicle. IP is property, monopoly applies to markets
    You can own a car, you can't own a non physical "thing."
    Once you tell someone your idea, it is no longer under your exclusive control.

    That's besides the fact that software is a virtual mechanical "thing" which makes it fall under patent law, not IP law.
    Code is not a work of art, literature etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You can own a car, you can't own a non physical "thing."
    Once you tell someone your idea, it is no longer under your exclusive control.
    You bring up literature below. Once you tell somebody your story, it is no longer under your exclusive control. Literature is IP just like all other forms of IP, and IP needs protection (for this very reason).

    That's besides the fact that software is a virtual mechanical "thing" which makes it fall under patent law, not IP law.
    Code is not a work of art, literature etc.
    Patent law is a subset of IP law

    From wiki

    Common types of intellectual property include copyrights, trademarks, patents, industrial design rights and trade secrets in some jurisdictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    You bring up literature below. Once you tell somebody your story, it is no longer under your exclusive control. Literature is IP just like all other forms of IP, and IP needs protection (for this very reason).
    I know but 90 years (for corporate ownership) and life of the author plus 60 years, is insanity.
    It doesn't allow someone else to improve upon it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Patent law is a subset of IP law

    From wiki
    I understand that but why does code fall under copyright and not patent length terms?
    For all intents, code operates as a virtual machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I know but 90 years (for corporate ownership) and life of the author plus 60 years, is insanity.
    It doesn't allow someone else to improve upon it.
    I agree that the length of copyright terms are excessive

    I understand that but why does code fall under copyright and not patent length terms?
    For all intents, code operates as a virtual machine.
    Not sure - IP law isn't really my area

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    Re: Libertarian Issues-Libertarians only please vote

    There is no scarcity among ideas. Hence you can't own ideas. Are you going to say that you own the air in the atmosphere? It would be an absurd idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    There is no scarcity among ideas. Hence you can't own ideas. Are you going to say that you own the air in the atmosphere? It would be an absurd idea.
    There is a scarcity of good ideas, though.
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    Depends where you look. Sometimes on this board . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Depends where you look. Sometimes on this board . . .
    I had a good idea once.
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