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Grade the Obama Administration

Is Obama Doing a good Job?


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Oh, yeah. Nice. Why don't you go high five each other, comb your hair, roll up the cuffs of your jeans, flip the collar of your jacket up and go beat up a nerd on the playground - because that's what they do in junior high school.

So Im guessing that actually happens to you. A lot...

Never mind the reality that that is PRECISELY what the current administration does...whines about how nothing is their fault...its too hard...and if you dare to disagree then you are a racist. Pathetic.
 
So Im guessing that actually happens to you. A lot...

Never mind the reality that that is PRECISELY what the current administration does...whines about how nothing is their fault...its too hard...and if you dare to disagree then you are a racist. Pathetic.

Please point to one occasion where Obama said that his critics are racist and I'll let you off the monkey bars so you can go play with your friends.
 
Lets see, based only on what you've put here...

Handling of the War = Solid C. There's a number of things I like in the general handling of Iraq, primarily that he's following through with Bush's plan. I like that he is focusing a bit more on Afghanistan, though the time it took and what he ultimately did with regards to what the General wanted did not have me thrilled. However his actions and words at times do not jive up which gives a strange mixed message that I think does damage to the overall cause. Where I'd give Bush a B, Obama has a C. As such I voted for both approve and disapprove.

Handling of the Economy = Incomplete, currently D. Still a bit of time to see. However at this point I disliked the Bailouts, and did under Bush. I dislike deficit spending under Bush, Obama has made him look like an infant in comparison. The stimulus spent a ton of money that seeming did little to nothing and was far to spread out to be of any real "stimulus" to the economy, with the unemployment rate still doing poorly with what little bounce it had seemingly connected to the temporary census workers that were hired in mass. All the while he adds another entitlement program onto the books. Great. Voted disapprove.

Foreign Policy = D+. He's Bizarro Bush. Where Bush was all brass balls and piss and vinegar it seemed when it came to Foreign Policy, President Obama is a walking giant vagina that is weeping from its....um, enough with that imagery. The constant talking down of America, siding with foreign countries over our own states and making their opposition key to talks with other places, the continual flogging of ourselves at times to the insult of a majority of Americans simply to please countries who at times frankly whose opinion isn't going to change in any worth while way. I've been about as unhappy with his foriegn policy as I was with Bush's. Voted Disapprove

Tax Policies = C again. On one side, granted with arm twisting, there was TEMPORARY tax BREAKS in the stimulus. At the same time, there's been attempts at raising taxes other than income taxes through things like cap and trade and others. Additionally there is a clear understanding with the hope that the Bush Tax Cuts are removed, at least at the top and likely more by the time that comes. Additionally his rhetoric seems to point that there will be tax hikes in time. So right now he's sitting at a mid level of comfort and it depends if he follows through on his rhetoric or doesn't. Voted both on this one.

Bureaucracy = F. He gets an F only because he made this a large part of his campaign and basically has been a flaming piece of **** when it comes to it. No Lobbyists, he has lobbyists. No manipulating loopholes to justify questionable actions, then he does it. More transparency and posting things in plenty of time for the American Public to see, then he has tons of backroom deals and important legislation doesn't get posted up. Complain and use campaign rhetoric on signing statements, use signing statements. Reach for bipartisanship, surround himself with staunch to extreme liberals. Placing a person in charge of homeland security that has informed subagencies to not bother enforcing this countries laws regarding securing that homeland. Change from Politics as Usual? Sure, and I'm Superman. Voted disapprove.
 
Despite our fierce ideologies and tendency to view every politician as either a Christ or Devil, I was curious how most Americans feel about each area of the President's job.

Foreign Policy? The Economy? The War on Terror? The Bureaucracy (i.e. Education, Energy, Health & Human Services, etc)? Tax Policy?

I'd give the President a B+ on conducting the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, a D- in Foreign Policy, a D- on the Economy, a C on Tax Policy, and a flat out F on managing the Bureaucracy. (People, seriously, this is why it is important to elect an individual who has RUN SOMETHING BEFORE).
i can't vote this way......he's done some good things, and he's made some mistakes. thus far, for me, he's earned a C+
 
If OP expected a bipartisan response, you be dreamin' bwoii. What exactly is it about the mans handling of the war that everybody on this forum disaproves of? Im not exactly too informed about it clearly, because from my POV he seems to be handling it the way Bush handled it only he is trying to get out of there.
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Obama get's an A+. Regardless of how any conservative may grade him, if we apply a grading curve compared to Bush any grade Obama could receive would be an A+.
 
I'm not quite sure if there's anything he's done yet that I like. The big government Republocrats are all alike in the end.
 
Obama get's an A+. Regardless of how any conservative may grade him, if we apply a grading curve compared to Bush any grade Obama could receive would be an A+.

If we're using the same grading curve, then Obama would get the same grade as Bush as they are essentially the same thing.
 
Please point to one occasion where Obama said that his critics are racist and I'll let you off the monkey bars so you can go play with your friends.


“Voting ‘no’ and hiding from the vote are the same result. Those of us on the floor see it. It was clear the three of them who did not cast their yes votes until all 60 Senate votes had been tallied and it was clear that the result was a foregone conclusion. And why? Why all this discord and discourtesy, all this unprecedented destructive action? All to break the momentum of our new young president.
They are desperate to break this president. They have ardent supporters who are nearly hysterical at the very election of President Barack Obama. The birthers, the fanatics, the people running around in right-wing militia and Aryan support groups, it is unbearable to them that President Barack Obama should exist. That is one powerful reason. It is not the only one.”


Carter again cites racism as factor in Obama's treatment - CNN.com

Matthews, Walsh Unsubtly Accuse Obama Opponents Of Racism | NewsBusters.org

Another Democratic Blogger Calls Obama’s Opponents Racist: Our Comments on TygrBright’s Offensive Racial Reductionism :: Daily Uprising

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/magazine/31clinton-t.html?_r=1

'You lie' outburst at Obama was racist, says former president Jimmy Carter | Mail Online

Is race a factor in opposition to health reform? - washingtonpost.com

Prejudice and Obama's Opposition | Psychology Today

http://socialecology.uci.edu/files/users/eknowles/knowles2010.pdf

Memo to Obama attack dog Robert Gibbs: stop pooping on our lawn – Telegraph Blogs

Hot Air Senator: ObamaCare opponents all birthers and racists; Update: Whitehouse denies, video added
 
If we're using the same grading curve, then Obama would get the same grade as Bush as they are essentially the same thing.

How exactly are the the same?
 
If OP expected a bipartisan response, you be dreamin' bwoii. What exactly is it about the mans handling of the war that everybody on this forum disaproves of? Im not exactly too informed about it clearly, because from my POV he seems to be handling it the way Bush handled it only he is trying to get out of there.
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Yes, that's a good description.

Now, where are the ranters about how he will cut and run? We heard cut and run, cut and run, cut and run over and over before the election, so why don't we hear that tired old phrase now?
 
How exactly are the the same?

By supporting and proliferating the same things. Incentives to the rich, Wallstreet and the banks, to continuing and expanding the war in the Middle East, to continuing with interventionist policies, growing the debt, increasing spending in ways which benefit the People little and the elite most, etc.

The real question is "How exactly are they different"? I think the only thing you can really say is that there was discussion on national healthcare under Obama...but even that ended in nothing more than a give away to the insurance agencies. Again, something which benefited the elite most and the People the least.
 
B+ foreign, D- domestic.

His foreign policies are a little sloppy, but the world loves him so he automatically gets a little extra credit for it, not to mention that he hasn't overstretched the American war tentacles over the face of the planet.

As far as domestic policies, he's been borderline inept.
 
my objection is that he HASN'T raised taxes on the greedy rich nearly enough.

I question you specifically on why 'greedy' and 'rich' people are lumped together in your mind? I see greedy poor people (not all, but some who don't work when they can because they know the government will support them... which means they're basically taking tax dollars for no good reason) and greedy rich people (not all, but some who buy politicians that make laws in their favor and against the middle class, making the rich richer)

Both are wrong. Very wrong. Both are stealing my money and I am angry. But to be so biased(/uneducated!) against one side and lump rich people in with greedy people is also wrong. It's disillusioning the picture. Let's not argue for one side for the sake that you generally agree with that side and so you feel compelled to support everything they do. Let's argue for the truth. Let's argue and decide the philosophies and principals behind an issue and then figure out the best way to resolve the problem based on the ideal philosophy that has been decided upon. This is what our forefathers did. It wasn't about votes. It was about what was right for all people. It's people like you that cause the biggest problem of all: Ignorance.
 
“Voting ‘no’ and hiding from the vote are the same result. Those of us on the floor see it. It was clear the three of them who did not cast their yes votes until all 60 Senate votes had been tallied and it was clear that the result was a foregone conclusion. And why? Why all this discord and discourtesy, all this unprecedented destructive action? All to break the momentum of our new young president.
They are desperate to break this president. They have ardent supporters who are nearly hysterical at the very election of President Barack Obama. The birthers, the fanatics, the people running around in right-wing militia and Aryan support groups, it is unbearable to them that President Barack Obama should exist. That is one powerful reason. It is not the only one.”


Carter again cites racism as factor in Obama's treatment - CNN.com

Matthews, Walsh Unsubtly Accuse Obama Opponents Of Racism | NewsBusters.org

Another Democratic Blogger Calls Obama’s Opponents Racist: Our Comments on TygrBright’s Offensive Racial Reductionism :: Daily Uprising

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/magazine/31clinton-t.html?_r=1

'You lie' outburst at Obama was racist, says former president Jimmy Carter | Mail Online

Is race a factor in opposition to health reform? - washingtonpost.com

Prejudice and Obama's Opposition | Psychology Today

http://socialecology.uci.edu/files/users/eknowles/knowles2010.pdf

Memo to Obama attack dog Robert Gibbs: stop pooping on our lawn – Telegraph Blogs

Hot Air Senator: ObamaCare opponents all birthers and racists; Update: Whitehouse denies, video added

Again, it's not from Obama at all. It's from others, sure.

But that's no more realistic than saying Bush is racist because Kanye West said he was.
 
Again, it's not from Obama at all. It's from others, sure.

But that's no more realistic than saying Bush is racist because Kanye West said he was.

I actually wrote your response for you and sent it out. And I nailed it. (actually I missed part of it. in addition to your verbatim responser i also predicted there would some comment about sources...)

Yep...his entire administration...but not Obama...

:rofl
 
I am actually astonished that so many people disapprove of his foreign policy, seeing as how President Obama ran on being a dramatic change from the Bush Administration.

It seems like most people agree that his managing of the Bureaucracy has been an absolute failure. I am curious how big of a deal people think this is. How important is the President's Role in managing the Bureaucracy that he serves as a functioning CEO over?

What effects do people perceive the federal bureaucracy as having in their lives?
 
If OP expected a bipartisan response, you be dreamin' bwoii. What exactly is it about the mans handling of the war that everybody on this forum disaproves of? Im not exactly too informed about it clearly, because from my POV he seems to be handling it the way Bush handled it only he is trying to get out of there.
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I'm all for getting out of there, too, but getting out after fully stomping the enemy, something that Obama nor his predecessor refused to do.
 
I'll have to withhold judgement of his tax policies until he actually has one.;) But I expect I will disapprove of it, based on his ideological views.

On the war issue- I think we should get out altogether.
On the economy- I think he is inept.
On his foreign policy- he's an apologist, and I have no respect for his approach.
On his bureaucracy management- there aren't many presidents who I think do a good job, so I can't blame a bureaucrat for being a bureaucrat.;)
 
I actually wrote your response for you and sent it out. And I nailed it. (actually I missed part of it. in addition to your verbatim responser i also predicted there would some comment about sources...)

Yep...his entire administration...but not Obama...

:rofl

You didn't point to people in his administration. You point to people who are authors and commentators.

By your argument then, Bush and Cheney called everyone who disagreed with them anti-American Terrorist-lovers.

If you'll accept my premise, then yours can be true. Otherwise, you are giving nothing but spin.
 
My only hesitation about this poll, is that it doesn't make any distinction as to why or what part of some very broad issues it is you are talking about. For example, while some fools would have you believe that Obama has "raised taxes" (even though that ISN'T true) my objection is that he HASN'T raised taxes on the greedy rich nearly enough. Without such distinctions, this sort of "poll" really doesn't say much.

Hasn't raised taxes??? Do you smoke? Lots of people who smoke would disagree with you.
Not sure when Bush tax cuts expire, but he says he will let them expire. That to me is a tax increase!
 
Is sounding like an Ivy-League graduate a good thing? They usually come of rather smug. Frankly, I'd rather listen to the likes of Ron Paul (Duke) and Paul Ryan (Miami University), or Eric Cantor (George Washington University) or Gary Johnson (University of New Mexico).

Every ivy leager I ever met is an arrogant snob. That doesn't qualify him any more than a hick.
 
Where is the oil platform as an issue? The administration handling of that is absolutely atrocious. All the administration has done is make the CG and BP jobs more difficult. If ADM Allen says BP is doing all it can, that is what he means. He has no hidden agenda. He'll be retiring soon. He sounded, the last time I heard him, like he was getting administration pressure instead of administration assistance. What a circlejerk.

If BP can't handle the entire load of the work there then the administration MUST fill in the gap by calling in other available resources like Navy ships, contracting fisherman, calling in materials from other countries, streamlining EPA obstructions to stopgap measures such as the sand banking Gov Jindel has proposed. None of that is happening and how long has this been going on?!!

Inexcusable! I'm just waiting for the narcissist in chief to try to point the finger at someone else as we all know he will.
 
I am actually astonished that so many people disapprove of his foreign policy, seeing as how President Obama ran on being a dramatic change from the Bush Administration.

He's a dramatic change from the Bush Administration all right, but not always in a good way. The results of his Af-Pak policies are considerably worse than Bush's so far...although to be fair, Obama was dealt a much worse hand at dealing with Af-Pak than Bush was.
 
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