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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Some of them were libertines and belonged to the hellfire club. The Hell-Fire Club, Masonic Deism, Dashwood, Franklin, and the Black Mass

    Most of them were deists who evolved from the Renaissance.
    That's true, but the former is a social philosophy and the latter is a religious philosophy. We're talking political philosophy.

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That's true, but the former is a social philosophy and the latter is a religious philosophy. We're talking political philosophy.
    Religion and social philosophy are very much intertwined with politics, today, and has always been that way.
    Last edited by LiberalAvenger; 05-24-10 at 07:19 AM.

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    A bunch of exclusively white males who owned slaves?
    Sounds about right.
    Really?
    Two questiuons:

    Of all the people that signed the Declaration of Independece and were part of the Constitutional Convention, exactly that proportion owned slaves?

    What proportion of current libertarians are white slave-owning males?

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... States rights is something both the Founding slave owners and Libertarians all seem to be fond of.



    so what? ,,,,,,,
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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    so what? ,,,,,,,
    There's no real point attached to that post -- just another example of her usual drive-by sophistry.

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    Ron Paul Believes that our Founding Fathers Were Libertarians. Awesome!!!

    Watch Video-> YouTube- Ron Paul: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians
    Ya statist libertarians who set up a timocratic system of governance that allowed slavery.

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... States rights is something both the Founding slave owners and Libertarians all seem to be fond of.
    Um Libertarians are opposed to the state, period, we support the sovereignty of the individual. A collective tyranny at the state or local level is a tyranny just like that of the federal level only on a smaller scale.
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 05-24-10 at 03:11 PM.

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Jefferson would be considered a libertarian today.
    How do you figure that? Jefferson was a slave owner.

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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    How do you figure that? Jefferson was a slave owner.




    He wouldn't be today.
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    Re: The Founding Fathers Were Libertarians

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um Libertarians are opposed to the state, period.
    This is false.
    Wanting a minimum of government does not equate to the total opposition of the existence of government.

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