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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No. Certainly not to the extent that race factored favorably for the 42 guys before him.
    No, it didn't...but then you proceed to attach a qualifying statement after that? So...it did factor in favorably, but no as much as the fact that the 42 others before him...so those guys became President because they're white?

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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Ike was elected in 1952...not exactly the best time in America for race relations. If he wasn't white, he wouldn't have been a five-star general and certainly wouldn't have been elected president. Period.

    Carter was elected in 1976. It would be EXTREMELY optimistic to suggest a black man could've been elected president then. But even if it was possible, it wouldn't have applied to Carter. It's highly unlikely he could've got into Georgia Tech or the US Naval Academy in the 1940s if he was black, and he certainly wouldn't have been elected governor of Georgia.

    Reagan - There weren't too many famous black cowboys. If he was black, he would not have been a famous Western actor, and therefore would not have been president.

    Clinton - If he was black, he would not have been able to get elected governor of a southern state in the 1970s. Ergo, no political career. Ergo, no presidency.



    Your pathetic attempt to avoid the obvious that external factors (such as race) have been important for EVERY president is just that: pathetic. Funny how you only shriek about race helping someone when that person is of a different race than you. Hmm.
    MOre psychobabble. you try to justify a second rate candidate whose main qualification and advantage was his race versus other candidates where race was not the issue



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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Reagan was governor of california after being president of the SAG
    Would Reagan have been a famous Western actor if he was black?

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    Clinton was a Rhodes scholar and governor of Arkansas
    Would Clinton have been governor of Arkansas in the 1970s if he was black?

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    Carter was a very good naval cadet and officer and governor
    Would Carter have been governor of Georgia in the 1970s if he was black?

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    Ike was a top cadet and then supreme allied commander
    Could Ike have been a five-star general during WWII or elected president in 1952 if he was black?

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    they got all of that on merit
    No, none of them would have got where they were if they had been black.
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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MOre psychobabble. you try to justify a second rate candidate whose main qualification and advantage was his race versus other candidates where race was not the issue
    An excellent rebuttal. You've soundly defeated all my points with your brilliant logic.
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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheServantCharles View Post
    No, it didn't...but then you proceed to attach a qualifying statement after that? So...it did factor in favorably, but no as much as the fact that the 42 others before him...so those guys became President because they're white?
    Yes, they did.
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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes, they did.
    well if being white was the only qualifier for them becoming President...are you saying there's only been 42 white males in all of U.S. history?

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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Would Reagan have been a famous actor if he was black?



    Would Clinton have been governor of Arkansas in the 1970s if he was black?



    Would Carter have been governor of Georgia in the 1970s if he was black?



    Could Ike have been elected president in 1952 if he was black?



    No, none of them would have got where they were if they had been black.
    when being white didn't get you a specific advantages compared to the majority of those you are competiting against means it didn't matter. Ike got no advantage against every other contender for West Point, General etc by being White



    Obama got a big advantage over the majority when he applied to law school and when he ran for president due to his color



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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    An excellent rebuttal. You've soundly defeated all my points with your brilliant logic.
    you really aren't that much of a challenge



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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MOre psychobabble. you try to justify a second rate candidate whose main qualification and advantage was his race versus other candidates where race was not the issue
    I just *love* how you use the phrase "race was not the issue" when describing the other candidates. Why is that? Why wasn't race an issue for them? Because their skin is the same color as yours?
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    Re: Would YOU vote for this guy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheServantCharles View Post
    well if being white was the only qualifier for them becoming President...are you saying there's only been 42 white males in all of U.S. history?
    Logic is not your strong point.
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