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Thread: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    WTF are you babbling about? You are the one denigrating people as "backward hicks".
    For a Texan, that would be a compliment.

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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    For a Texan, that would be a compliment.
    In my experience, most of the posters from Texas tend to be reasonable and thoughtful, which is more than can be said for everyone.
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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Problem is that most of the rest of the US uses those Texas text books.
    Well now would be a good time to change that practice if everyone is all butthurt about it.

    I don't really agree with some of the changes myself, but I strongly believe in local government having more control over its education system.

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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well now would be a good time to change that practice if everyone is all butthurt about it.

    I don't really agree with some of the changes myself, but I strongly believe in local government having more control over its education system.
    Like the Kansas board? Where each district doesn't have to follow state guidelines?

    I used to talk about Kansas's idiotic science policy until I was informed that each district can give the finger to the state guideline committee.
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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    For a Texan, that would be a compliment.
    What state was it where the best they could find for governor was a pro wrestler (aka fake wrestler) and for their senator the best they could do was a washed-up comedian? Oh yeah, that was MN.

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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well now would be a good time to change that practice if everyone is all butthurt about it.

    I don't really agree with some of the changes myself, but I strongly believe in local government having more control over its education system.
    Is a local government a book publisher?

    Texas is where the school books are printed.

    Local governments are laying off teachers because they don't have the money due to the housing prices tanking and property taxes being lowered. Schools are funded with property taxes.

    How should they fund new books from more expensive publishers if they don't want to use the books from Texas?
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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Like the Kansas board? Where each district doesn't have to follow state guidelines?

    I used to talk about Kansas's idiotic science policy until I was informed that each district can give the finger to the state guideline committee.
    I think the highest level of government allowed to dictate to the local governments regarding the education curriculum should be the county.

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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Queen View Post
    Is a local government a book publisher?

    Texas is where the school books are printed.

    Local governments are laying off teachers because they don't have the money due to the housing prices tanking and property taxes being lowered. Schools are funded with property taxes.

    How should they fund new books from more expensive publishers if they don't want to use the books from Texas?
    I guess they'll be trimming their budgets in other areas or they will negotiate deals with other publishers. Either way, if they don't believe what is in texas's textbooks is valid information, then they have an obligation to choose a different textbook anyway.

    Or this could all be a big ole tempest in a tea pot that is distracting people from more important national issues.

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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I guess they'll be trimming their budgets in other areas or they will negotiate deals with other publishers. Either way, if they don't believe what is in texas's textbooks is valid information, then they have an obligation to choose a different textbook anyway.

    Or this could all be a big ole tempest in a tea pot that is distracting people from more important national issues.


    It doesn't work that way.

    The textbooks market does not operate according to the same economic principles as a normal consumer market. First, the end consumers (students) do not select the product, and the product is not purchased by faculty nor professors. Therefore, price is removed from the purchasing decision, giving the producer (publishers) disproportionate market power to set prices high.

    This fundamental flaw in the market is blamed as the primary reason that prices are out of control. The term "Broken Market" first appeared in Economist James Koch's analysis of the market commissioned by the Advisory Committee on Student Financial Assistance.[3]

    This situation is exacerbated by the lack of competition in the textbook market. Consolidation in the past few decades has reduced the number of major textbook companies from around 30 to just a handful.[4] Consequently, there is less competition than there used to be, and the high cost of starting up keeps new companies from entering.
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textbook]Textbook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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    Re: Who else is tired of seeing threads about the textbooks in texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think the highest level of government allowed to dictate to the local governments regarding the education curriculum should be the county.
    Some of the smaller populated states have found it practical to administer education from the state level because the population is so scattered it is just more cost effective and efficient for everybody to do it that way. Some of those entire state populations are smaller than your average big city though.

    But I agree that the more local education happens, the far better the schools are going to be. For sure I would like to see the federal government out of the education business completely other than to do data and information gathering and make that available to the states and individual school districts so they can know how they compare with everybody else.
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