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Thread: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, supporting an organization != agreeing/supporting every actino of said organization.

    You're making an assumption. This is the problem with polls and statistics and why people like you use them in an attempt to bolster points that they have nothing to do with.
    Yes I know hating Jews and supporting an organization that supports the genocide of Jews proves nothing.

    No, I'm comparing apples to apples. I'm comparing someone agreeing with someone broadly, but disagreeing on specifics to someone agreeing with someone broadly, but disagreeing on specifics.
    I know, one can be a Hitler support because they're environmentalist.

    You have not shown that a majority of people HATE Jews.
    Yes actually I have.

    You're really, really bad at understanding how polls and statistics work aren't you? A majority of these people have an unfavorable opinion on jews.
    Oh I see having an unfavourable view of Jews doesn't mean they hate them, let's just say they don't like them very much. Wow.

    A number of them support an organization that provides a plethora of social services.
    And supports the genocide of world Jewry.

    A majority of them in many of these countries also feel that violence against civilians is never justified. None of these things however tell us a majority of them want genocide against the Jews.
    I understand hating Jews + supporting an organization that calls for the genocide of world Jewry doesn't mean anything. You need to get an honest response from the poll respondents to answer the direct question of "do you support the genocide of Jews."



    Yes, if you want to claim as if some kind of fact that that's what they believe, yes.

    Feeling unfavorable towards jews does not equal wanting them to die.

    Supporting in general an organization that in part provides numerous social services does not necessarily mean agreeing with their desire to kill jews.
    Ya I know, most of those Nazi's really just supported Hitler's environmental policies. lol

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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    From 0 to Godwin in 2 pages, congrats.

    So you're going to bitch about "apples to oranges" but are not comparing Islam to Naziism?

    As I said intimated in the thread, yes, unfavorable views towards a group can eventually lead to the ability for someone with more extreme views to capitalize on such a notion. However, taking something that COULD happen and using it as evidence that somehow majority feel that way currently is factually and logically wrong.

    No one is saying that its a good thing that a majority of muslims in those countries hold an unfavorable view towards jews, what they're saying is that's not what this discussion is about.

    Now I'm done with your derailing attempts. If you want to talk about the actual topic I'll be glad to indulge you, but I'm not going to continue to play along with your attempted derail.

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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    From 0 to Godwin in 2 pages, congrats.
    Hey man you brought it up, just because you're a Nazi doesn't mean you support killing Jews, you might just be a big supporter of conservation and social welfare programs. That's your logic not mine.

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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, supporting an organization != agreeing/supporting every actino of said organization.

    You're making an assumption. This is the problem with polls and statistics and why people like you use them in an attempt to bolster points that they have nothing to do with.



    No, I'm comparing apples to apples. I'm comparing someone agreeing with someone broadly, but disagreeing on specifics to someone agreeing with someone broadly, but disagreeing on specifics.



    You have not shown that a majority of people HATE Jews. You're really, really bad at understanding how polls and statistics work aren't you? A majority of these people have an unfavorable opinion on jews. A number of them support an organization that provides a plethora of social services. A majority of them in many of these countries also feel that violence against civilians is never justified. None of these things however tell us a majority of them want genocide against the Jews.

    That's an assumption of yours based off you taking polls and then deciding they mean something other than what was asked.



    Yes, if you want to claim as if some kind of fact that that's what they believe, yes.

    Feeling unfavorable towards jews does not equal wanting them to die.

    Supporting in general an organization that in part provides numerous social services does not necessarily mean agreeing with their desire to kill jews.
    good post but unfortunately some will just ignore common sense and logic

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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Agent, In elementary school there was this pr*ck that picked on my friends and I. He tossed stuff at us, called us names, and did other stupid sh*t. If asked if I had an unfavorable view of him, I'd answer an unequivocal yes. If asked if I wanted to murder him, I'd probably say no. I really don't know how to make this simpler. Unfavorable view =/= wanting to murder. This isn't opinion; this isn't complicated. It's basic logic that even toddler could understand. If you find a poll showing that a majority of Muslims want a genocide against the Jews, I'll listen, but until you accept that not liking someone isn't wanting to kill him, I don't see the point of discussing this.
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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Agent, In elementary school there was this pr*ck that picked on my friends and I. He tossed stuff at us, called us names, and did other stupid sh*t. If asked if I had an unfavorable view of him, I'd answer an unequivocal yes. If asked if I wanted to murder him, I'd probably say no. I really don't know how to make this simpler. Unfavorable view =/= wanting to murder. This isn't opinion; this isn't complicated. It's basic logic that even toddler could understand. If you find a poll showing that a majority of Muslims want a genocide against the Jews, I'll listen, but until you accept that not liking someone isn't wanting to kill him, I don't see the point of discussing this.
    Yeah, like the 12 million Jews are picking on the 1.4 billion Muslims

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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yeah, like the 12 million Jews are picking on the 1.4 billion Muslims

    Speaking of things toddlers should be able to understand..........
    Didn't say that they were. That's not the point. The point is that many of them feel like the Jews are picking on them. They don't like the Jews. That doesn't mean that they want them dead.
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    Re: Muslims what do YOU think they really believe?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Didn't say that they were. That's not the point. The point is that many of them feel like the Jews are picking on them. They don't like the Jews. That doesn't mean that they want them dead.
    Well, most people are stupid. You can tell them just about anything and they will repeat it.

    Take, for instance, this ridiculous notion that somehow a tiny minority is picking on an overwhelming majority. Despite the fact that this overwhelming majority is overwhelmingly bigoted against the tiny minority, and how common sense should dictate that it is the people in large numbers persecuting the tiny minority who are indulging in the harassment, there are many, many mind-numbingly stupid people who will tell you with a straight face that it is really the other way around.

    Amazing.
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