View Poll Results: Was the described situation racist?

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  • Yes, it sounds like a racist remark

    3 6.25%
  • It was insensitive

    8 16.67%
  • There was only cultural gulf and misunderstanding

    0 0%
  • The fellow's sensitivity over his ethnicity was coming to the surface

    12 25.00%
  • Is bad handwriting a stereotype for people from Philippines?

    5 10.42%
  • People should be more careful throwing out accusations of racisms

    13 27.08%
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Thread: Is this racism?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And as soon as you explain to me where the person in the story of the OP made "negative assessments about a g r o u p of people" then maybe I'll agree with you.

    You, like Disneylib, are creating your own conclusions from the story, the conclusions that you want to conclude so you can then turn the chicken scratch philipino dude into a victim of racism, so then you'll have something liberal-like to cry about.

    and your response is typical of the offender. Its never that they are being racist or insenstive, its ALWAYS that the other person is overly sensitive.

    Reminds me of a guy that I work with that loves to tell jokes about Jews being cheap. Whenever someone calls him on it, his response is always "You guys have no sense of humor...quit being so damned sensitive"....right....its always the other guys fault because the offenders see nothing wrong with their statements.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What im trying to figure out is how you, or anyone, can come to the conclusion that the guy in the OP is making a statement about all Filipinos because he draws another person into his joke and the recognizes the coincidence that they are from the same country.

    You know how often **** like this happens to white people and we fail to recognize and condemn or criticize it? Its all a part of the "one edged sword" of racism.
    Because you guys are simply disregarding the obvious intention of the mention of the country and writing it off as simply a "coincidence".

    Its no different that if he said, your handwriting is as bad as "Joe's" and he's black too.

    Why draw the distinction to both of them being black unless you are implying that the bad handwriting is a trait of the group.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Because you guys are simply disregarding the obvious intention of the mention of the country and writing it off as simply a "coincidence".

    Its no different that if he said, your handwriting is as bad as "Joe's" and he's black too.

    Why draw the distinction to both of them being black unless you are implying that the bad handwriting is a trait of the group.
    Since he didn't allude to race in the slightest (given that "filipino" isn't a race), it would be more like "Your handwriting is just as bad as "Joe's" and he's from Sweden too."

    Yeah, pretty much almost exactly like that.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    ''There is no "wrong end of it". ''

    Of course there is a wrong end of it. It may be just a joke or a comment to some, but the bigger picture is that racial prejudice does not stop at jokes and comments. When something affects all aspects of a persons life, there is a good chance that frustration for some will reach a point where they just cant see a joke about it as a joke.



    Id say, if prejudiced jokes against your group do not affect you in a negative way emotionally, then you have been luckier that those they do affect. I think, many would remember the point when certain jokes and comments stopped being just jokes and comments to them.



    ''Why do you think you're unique in that regard? ''

    I dont.



    What shocks me is how fiercly some are fighting for their 'right' to make racial jokes. Why do you need to make these comments and jokes?



    ''Since he didn't allude to race in the slightest ''

    Nit picking!



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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    ''There is no "wrong end of it". ''

    Of course there is a wrong end of it. It may be just a joke or a comment to some, but the bigger picture is that racial prejudice does not stop at jokes and comments. When something affects all aspects of a persons life, there is a good chance that frustration for some will reach a point where they just cant see a joke about it as a joke.

    Id say, if prejudiced jokes against your group do not affect you in a negative way emotionally, then you have been luckier that those they do affect. I think, many would remember the point when certain jokes and comments stopped being just jokes and comments to them.
    I choose not to be offended by dumbasses. Not my fault other people allow themselves to be negatively influenced by dumbasses. Plus, I also have a sense of humor and the ability to laugh at myself and "my people".

    Besides, what was described in the OP wasn't a prejudiced thing. Or a racial thing. Nothing of the sort.

    unique in that regard? ''

    I dont.

    What shocks me is how fiercly some are fighting for their 'right' to make racial jokes. Why do you need to make these comments and jokes?
    Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing.

    Aside from that, the OP didn't make a racial joke.

    Why are you fighting so hard to make something out of nothing? Why do you CHOOSE to see racial issues where there are none? I will never understand the need for some people to just make **** up and then get upset about what they just made up.


    ''Since he didn't allude to race in the slightest ''

    Nit picking!
    No, fact speaking. There's absolutely no other logical way to see it.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I choose not to be offended by dumbasses. Not my fault other people allow themselves to be negatively influenced by dumbasses. Plus, I also have a sense of humor and the ability to laugh at myself and "my people".
    Perfect example to what I was alluding to above. In the eyes of the offender (and supporters) its NEVER the actions of the offender that are wrong, its always that the other person is too "Sensitive" or doesn't have a "Sense of humor"....
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Perfect example to what I was alluding to above. In the eyes of the offender (and supporters) its NEVER the actions of the offender that are wrong, its always that the other person is too "Sensitive" or doesn't have a "Sense of humor"....
    I didn't state anyone was "wrong" or "not wrong". I merely stated that people choose to be offended and people do not have the right NOT to be offended. If someone does get offended, well too bad, so sad. They can get over it. People say ****ty things, let's not act like the sky is falling, chicken little.

    I passed no judgement whatsoever - in general. However, with regard to the OP, there was nothing racial there, nothing prejudiced, nothing 'wrong' in the slightest with what he said. If someone chose to take offense at something THAT ****ing innocent, then yeah... that person has some serious ****ing issues.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I didn't state anyone was "wrong" or "not wrong". I merely stated that people choose to be offended and people do not have the right NOT to be offended. If someone does get offended, well too bad, so sad. They can get over it. People say ****ty things, let's not act like the sky is falling, chicken little.

    I passed no judgement whatsoever - in general. However, with regard to the OP, there was nothing racial there, nothing prejudiced, nothing 'wrong' in the slightest with what he said. If someone chose to take offense at something THAT ****ing innocent, then yeah... that person has some serious ****ing issues.
    I agree that Freedom of Speech is important and that people do not have a right NOT to be offended.

    That said, it doesn't mean that people will still say racist and borderline racist things.

    If you look carefully, I agreed that this statement is not "racist" per se, but I do believe that it does send off a lot of signals that the dweeb making the statement more than likely harbors racist views.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    and your response is typical of the offender. Its never that they are being racist or insenstive, its ALWAYS that the other person is overly sensitive.

    Reminds me of a guy that I work with that loves to tell jokes about Jews being cheap. Whenever someone calls him on it, his response is always "You guys have no sense of humor...quit being so damned sensitive"....right....its always the other guys fault because the offenders see nothing wrong with their statements.
    You've failed to show me how the person pointing out a coincidence between two KNOWN chicken scratchers = racism.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Because you guys are simply disregarding the obvious intention of the mention of the country and writing it off as simply a "coincidence".

    Its no different that if he said, your handwriting is as bad as "Joe's" and he's black too.

    Why draw the distinction to both of them being black unless you are implying that the bad handwriting is a trait of the group.

    Explain how you know this intention.

    Oh wait, you don't know, your just trying to stir up **** so you can feel liberal.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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