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  • Yes, it sounds like a racist remark

    3 6.25%
  • It was insensitive

    8 16.67%
  • There was only cultural gulf and misunderstanding

    0 0%
  • The fellow's sensitivity over his ethnicity was coming to the surface

    12 25.00%
  • Is bad handwriting a stereotype for people from Philippines?

    5 10.42%
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Thread: Is this racism?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Interesting. I'm not familiar with the tendencies of this culture. They do run short, and this particular man is quite small. He's not gay, I know he has kids, I think he's married. I have heard that he's had outbursts before, although I've always been fond of him. After this episode however, I'll be very leery of anything but a business like relationship with him.

    He recently got a hairpiece, I was surprised when he showed up wearing that...
    ....Just stop.

    Would you generalize about white poeple like this? What are the tendencies of white guy culture? Let's see. White guys tend to be backward ass country ****s who watch a lot of NASCAR and have too much body hair, right?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    so, was your implication that Filipinos are illiterate? Racism can be expressed through generalizing about someone on the basis of their perceived race or country of ethnic origin.
    I get the impression that MyOwnDrum would have made the remark about them being from the same country no matter WHAT country that may have been. I know I would have. Hell, I would have flat out asked, "Do they not teach y'all how to write in [insert country here]?" ROFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    ....Just stop.

    Would you generalize about white poeple like this? What are the tendencies of white guy culture? Let's see. White guys tend to be backward ass country ****s who watch a lot of NASCAR and have too much body hair, right?
    Pretty much, yeah. In the southern US, anyway.

    But what generalizations was he making about "filipinos"? He was talking about a specific man.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Pretty much, yeah. In the southern US, anyway.

    But what generalizations was he making about "filipinos"? He was talking about a specific man.
    You tell him that his handwriting is difficult to read, and jokingly compare it to another co-worker's (well known to everyone) bad handwriting, who is also happens to befrom the Philippines. Then you good humoredly note "you guys are even from the same country".
    HE was generalizing two co-workers on the basis of ethnicity.

    Would you like to be told that you are somehow incompetent in some way and that it must be related to your gender/ethnicity/religion?

    I've had guys make comments about me being female on the job. It will always get some kind of response and they may not enjoy it.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I get the impression that MyOwnDrum would have made the remark about them being from the same country no matter WHAT country that may have been. I know I would have. Hell, I would have flat out asked, "Do they not teach y'all how to write in [insert country here]?" ROFL
    Yeah, I think that's pretty damn stupid. And based on MOD's history here with racially-based polls, I have a sneaking suspicion that he makes a LOT of generaliziations about his co-workers on the basis of his race, and thinks that because he's had cordial relationships with them in the past that they are going to overlook his racial comments.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    HE was generalizing two co-workers on the basis of ethnicity.
    That's not what you quoted. And no, he wasn't generalizing ****. He was making an observation that he couldn't read either one's handwriting and both of them were from the same country. Those are facts. No generalizations there. Just an observation that was a joke.

    Would you like to be told that you are somehow incompetent in some way and that it must be related to your gender/ethnicity/religion?

    I've had guys make comments about me being female on the job. It will always get some kind of response and they may not enjoy it.
    Happens all the time. And when they're jokes, like what MyOwnDrum said, I laugh and give it right back to them. But then again, I'm not a tightass lacking a sense of humor.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    so, was your implication that Filipinos are illiterate? Racism can be expressed through generalizing about someone on the basis of their perceived race or country of ethnic origin.



    I would suggest that making generalizations about people on the basis of race or ethnicity isn't wise, particularly these days.

    I would never do this professionally, though I do sometimes make fun of racial stereotypes, but only about my own race.

    My kids are half filipino, and people have said some very stupid things to and about them. I've taught them some appropriate responses that range from sarcasm to a fist in the face.
    LOL, the other person with illegible handwriting is a PhD, lol, no there was no implication that these people are illiterate.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That's not what you quoted. And no, he wasn't generalizing ****. He was making an observation that he couldn't read either one's handwriting and both of them were from the same country. Those are facts. No generalizations there. Just an observation that was a joke.



    Happens all the time. And when they're jokes, like what MyOwnDrum said, I laugh and give it right back to them. But then again, I'm not a tightass lacking a sense of humor.
    Lol, I just made the mistake of feeling too much like this guy was just 'one of the guys'.

    I work around a lot of Hispanics and I'm very careful to avoid controversy, and really find it offensive when other co-workers start bringing up hot topics at work, such as complaining about illegals. I just think the workplace should basically be a neutral ground.

    No, this comment was meant to be lighthearted, but I found out Tony is not. I'm going to be more confrontational and direct with the guy from now on.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    so, was your implication that Filipinos are illiterate? Racism can be expressed through generalizing about someone on the basis of their perceived race or country of ethnic origin.



    I would suggest that making generalizations about people on the basis of race or ethnicity isn't wise, particularly these days.

    I would never do this professionally, though I do sometimes make fun of racial stereotypes, but only about my own race.

    My kids are half filipino, and people have said some very stupid things to and about them. I've taught them some appropriate responses that range from sarcasm to a fist in the face.
    I remember my whole family was sitting at my grandmother's table enjoying a holiday meal. My uncle, who is Polish had just married an Italian girl, name Aunt Pat. I really liked her and we hit it off real good. I was six years old at the time.

    It was kind of quiet at the table because this was her first meal with my immediate Polish family, but none of her relatives were there.

    I was eating my salad and dipping the lettuce into a bowl of vinegar when I said, "Hey Aunt Pat, isn't this the way the Dagos do it?"

    Everbody cracked up including my Aunt Pat and the ice was broken and I didn't even get an ass whooping.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yeah, I think that's pretty damn stupid. And based on MOD's history here with racially-based polls, I have a sneaking suspicion that he makes a LOT of generaliziations about his co-workers on the basis of his race, and thinks that because he's had cordial relationships with them in the past that they are going to overlook his racial comments.
    You think what is pretty damn stupid? Making a joke?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Let's say you are receiving a verbal report from a fellow from a another country originally, along with a handwritten reference sheet. This guy is from the Philippines. You can never read this fellow's handwriting. You tell him that his handwriting is difficult to read, and jokingly compare it to another co-worker's (well known to everyone) bad handwriting, who is also happens to befrom the Philippines. Then you good humoredly note "you guys are even from the same country".

    This previously congenial colleague flies off the handle, extremely offended, and accusing you of racism, calling you a racist. You immediately try to sooth the situation, apologizing, but the co-worker has trouble getting over it. Other co-workers are dumbfounded at the fellows reaction too.
    No This is not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It may be a little insensitive but not racist.
    No, its not insensitive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Insensitive and just not smart to say in todays society? Probably yes.
    No, not insensitive, and nothing wrong with saying it in today's society.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I don't even think what MyOwnDrum said was the least bit insensitive. He was making a joke, for ****s sake.

    People CHOOSE to get offended.
    Correct. People choose to get offended because they get all this extra special attention. Wankers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post

    I would make an effort to consider the sensitivities of others....
    I would not.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    There simply is NO racism here.
    Correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Maybe a lack of sensitivity
    Incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Apoligizing to people like the Filipino guy in the example only empowers them and their immaturity.
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Yeah, I think that's pretty damn stupid. And based on MOD's history here with racially-based polls, I have a sneaking suspicion that he makes a LOT of generaliziations about his co-workers on the basis of his race, and thinks that because he's had cordial relationships with them in the past that they are going to overlook his racial comments.
    Thanks Catz... now you sound like "one of them" race baiters.
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