View Poll Results: Was the described situation racist?

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  • Yes, it sounds like a racist remark

    3 6.25%
  • It was insensitive

    8 16.67%
  • There was only cultural gulf and misunderstanding

    0 0%
  • The fellow's sensitivity over his ethnicity was coming to the surface

    12 25.00%
  • Is bad handwriting a stereotype for people from Philippines?

    5 10.42%
  • People should be more careful throwing out accusations of racisms

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Thread: Is this racism?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    ''If anything the Filipino guy is way to sensitive ''

    This brings up another thought I have been having. How does a person lose this sensitivity, after they have become allergic to certain comments and behaviours that have happened to them a bit too much? I am not expecting an answer to this, as nobody I asked has yet been able to answer it, but if anyone wants to give it a shot...



    I have a friend who is a psychologist. She says the strong feelings that come up when racial comments are made are 90% caused by what has happened in a persons past, and only 10% by what caused the outburst/reaction.



    ''Throwing out the Race card is highly inflammatory, I must say. Accusing someone of racism should be done lightly or on the spur of the moment. ''

    Have you succeeded in responding lightly to something which irritates the hell out of you? And, what if a possible threat is involved. This is the case with race comments. A person might want to shut up anyone making generalisings and others latching on to the generalisions, in case it starts becomming a work place 'truth', just because it is said often enough.



    ''That's very true, hearing things over and over again might make folks overly sensitive and prone to over reacting''

    I personally would apologise again, but keep it very simple, so he does not have something else to be p*ssed of at you about. I had a situation where I made a joke at work which I didnt think anybody could take seriously. Apparently somebody did, and the boss asked me to apologise. I apologised, because it is sometimes the simplest way to resolve things. Afterall, I really did not mean to piss off a colleague, so I could at least be sorry about that much.



    ''I think White people are, in general, sick of the term racism being thrown out at the drop of a hat. ''

    It is the price society will have to pay for a while, for hundreds of years of oppression. Best be careful not to prolong it, by putting more racism or even what can be peceived as racism out there.
    Can I ask you a question in all sincerity? Why should he apologize because Flipper got butthurt over nothing? I tend to think that all the unwarranted apologies and catering to the narcissistic view that everything is centered on a person's sensibilities is the cause for the race card being played all the time as it is.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I don't even think what MyOwnDrum said was the least bit insensitive. He was making a joke, for ****s sake.

    Just the other day I was out with my co-workers having a drink, including the Irish guy I work with. (whose accent makes me weak in the knees, but I digress... ) He's telling this story about how he thinks we're too soft on kids here in the US. About how in Ireland, if kids do ****ty in some sport, they'd throw rocks at them and how in the US we give ****ty kids trophies. I said something about there being a 'happy medium' between the two. He chuckled and said, "Well, we wouldn't actually throw rocks..." and before he could finish I interjected, "You'd throw potatoes?" Everyone at the table busted out laughing and he did his damndest NOT to laugh and just TRY to pretend to be offended while he rattled off about Irish stereotypes and told me, "póg mo thóin".

    People CHOOSE to get offended. People like that guy in the OP are only harming themselves by being pissed off all the time. He'd be so much better off mentally, and probably physically, if he laughed instead of angered.
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    Re: Is this racism?

    No, not racism...just another overly sensitive jackass exploiting his perceived 'victim' status.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    ''Why should he apologize because Flipper got butthurt over nothing? ''

    There isnt really a should about it. It is just the way I would handle it. There is no point in arguing with a persons feelings. If they are pissed off, then they are pissed off... But, there is a point in resolving work place tension, because you have to work there everyday. Getting defensive or aggressive just escalates the situation. The last thing I would want is my time being wasted with a 'he said this, she said that' scene with a manager trying to mediate it. It would not make either me or my colleague look good.



    Anyway, it is plain weird that people are making more of an issue out of people ''playing the race card'', than they are about rascism. Maybe this site is top heavy in white people. And, it will be unlikely to change, if racial issues are not discussed with more openmindedness and patience. It is the same with womens issues. I often wonder if the amount of abuse hurled at the feminists is absolutely necessary, in order to have a discussion about womens rights. Maybe this site is top heavy in white males.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Apoligizing to people like the Filipino guy in the example only empowers them and their immaturity. People don't have the right to never be offended. We have the right to live in a mature society were adults will act like adults and not get hurt over the slightest comment.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    There are quite a few posts on this thread, which I would consider over reactive. If you over react to over reactions, this can prompt over reactions, to the over reactions, to the over reactions ..... Ending such a vicious circle is what is important.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    There are quite a few posts on this thread, which I would consider over reactive. If you over react to over reactions, this can prompt over reactions, to the over reactions, to the over reactions ..... Ending such a vicious circle is what is important.
    So by responding to the thread, you just overreacted to the overreactions at the overreactions to the overreactions overreacting to the overdone reactions to the overreactions?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    ''So by responding to the thread, you just overreacted to the overreactions at the overreactions to the overreactions overreacting to the overdone reactions to the overreactions?''

    No, not necessarily...

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    If he's Philipino, his reaction probably has little to do with his race and much to do with the fact that he is likely a flaming drama queen like most Philipino's I have ever met.

    I'm serious: I have met one straight philipino in my life. And even he was questionable.

    Interesting. I'm not familiar with the tendencies of this culture. They do run short, and this particular man is quite small. He's not gay, I know he has kids, I think he's married. I have heard that he's had outbursts before, although I've always been fond of him. After this episode however, I'll be very leery of anything but a business like relationship with him.

    He recently got a hairpiece, I was surprised when he showed up wearing that...

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    Re: Is this racism?

    so, was your implication that Filipinos are illiterate? Racism can be expressed through generalizing about someone on the basis of their perceived race or country of ethnic origin.

    Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, although anyone may be discriminated against on an ethnic or cultural basis, independently of their somatic differences.
    I would suggest that making generalizations about people on the basis of race or ethnicity isn't wise, particularly these days.

    I would never do this professionally, though I do sometimes make fun of racial stereotypes, but only about my own race.

    My kids are half filipino, and people have said some very stupid things to and about them. I've taught them some appropriate responses that range from sarcasm to a fist in the face.

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