View Poll Results: Was the described situation racist?

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  • Yes, it sounds like a racist remark

    3 6.25%
  • It was insensitive

    8 16.67%
  • There was only cultural gulf and misunderstanding

    0 0%
  • The fellow's sensitivity over his ethnicity was coming to the surface

    12 25.00%
  • Is bad handwriting a stereotype for people from Philippines?

    5 10.42%
  • People should be more careful throwing out accusations of racisms

    13 27.08%
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Thread: Is this racism?

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    Re: Is this racism?

    I don't even think what MyOwnDrum said was the least bit insensitive. He was making a joke, for ****s sake.

    Just the other day I was out with my co-workers having a drink, including the Irish guy I work with. (whose accent makes me weak in the knees, but I digress... ) He's telling this story about how he thinks we're too soft on kids here in the US. About how in Ireland, if kids do ****ty in some sport, they'd throw rocks at them and how in the US we give ****ty kids trophies. I said something about there being a 'happy medium' between the two. He chuckled and said, "Well, we wouldn't actually throw rocks..." and before he could finish I interjected, "You'd throw potatoes?" Everyone at the table busted out laughing and he did his damndest NOT to laugh and just TRY to pretend to be offended while he rattled off about Irish stereotypes and told me, "póg mo thóin".

    People CHOOSE to get offended. People like that guy in the OP are only harming themselves by being pissed off all the time. He'd be so much better off mentally, and probably physically, if he laughed instead of angered.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    ''This previously congenial colleague flies off the handle, extremely offended, and accusing you of racism, calling you a racist. You immediately try to sooth the situation, apologizing, but the co-worker has trouble getting over it. Other co-workers are dumbfounded at the fellows reaction too. ''

    You likely did not intend to make a racist comment and the colleague likely would not have interpreted it as one, if it was the first time he heard such a comment. I think, this guy may have been reacting to the regular harassment that certain groups are subjected to, throughout their lives. ie. They become sensitive to all comments about their race, gender...

    I would make an effort to consider the sensitivities of others, before making certain comments, even if you think they are being unreasonable. Keep in mind, that you have not walked in this persons shoes, so really cant understand what it is like to be on the receiving end of racial harassment.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    That's very true, hearing things over and over again might make folks overly sensitive and prone to over reacting, especially when tired or stressed.

    Being accused of racism for small things can be aggravating too. I think White people are, in general, sick of the term racism being thrown out at the drop of a hat. That, too, can make people jumpy.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Let's say you are receiving a verbal report from a fellow from a another country originally, along with a handwritten reference sheet. This guy is from the Philippines. You can never read this fellow's handwriting. You tell him that his handwriting is difficult to read, and jokingly compare it to another co-worker's (well known to everyone) bad handwriting, who is also happens to befrom the Philippines. Then you good humoredly note "you guys are even from the same country".

    This previously congenial colleague flies off the handle, extremely offended, and accusing you of racism, calling you a racist. You immediately try to sooth the situation, apologizing, but the co-worker has trouble getting over it. Other co-workers are dumbfounded at the fellows reaction too.
    I voted "other": No, this is not racism.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    For some reason "no" wasn't on the list.

    Unless the guy making the comment was a Democrat. We all know what racists they are.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    The guy in question has no history of making racist remarks and is pretty easy going and friendly. The remark was entirely off the cuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    For some reason "no" wasn't on the list.

    Unless the guy making the comment was a Democrat. We all know what racists they are.
    Whoops, . I sometimes get too creative with my polls!

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    Re: Is this racism?

    ''If anything the Filipino guy is way to sensitive ''

    This brings up another thought I have been having. How does a person lose this sensitivity, after they have become allergic to certain comments and behaviours that have happened to them a bit too much? I am not expecting an answer to this, as nobody I asked has yet been able to answer it, but if anyone wants to give it a shot...



    I have a friend who is a psychologist. She says the strong feelings that come up when racial comments are made are 90% caused by what has happened in a persons past, and only 10% by what caused the outburst/reaction.



    ''Throwing out the Race card is highly inflammatory, I must say. Accusing someone of racism should be done lightly or on the spur of the moment. ''

    Have you succeeded in responding lightly to something which irritates the hell out of you? And, what if a possible threat is involved. This is the case with race comments. A person might want to shut up anyone making generalisings and others latching on to the generalisions, in case it starts becomming a work place 'truth', just because it is said often enough.



    ''That's very true, hearing things over and over again might make folks overly sensitive and prone to over reacting''

    I personally would apologise again, but keep it very simple, so he does not have something else to be p*ssed of at you about. I had a situation where I made a joke at work which I didnt think anybody could take seriously. Apparently somebody did, and the boss asked me to apologise. I apologised, because it is sometimes the simplest way to resolve things. Afterall, I really did not mean to piss off a colleague, so I could at least be sorry about that much.



    ''I think White people are, in general, sick of the term racism being thrown out at the drop of a hat. ''

    It is the price society will have to pay for a while, for hundreds of years of oppression. Best be careful not to prolong it, by putting more racism or even what can be peceived as racism out there.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    ''If anything the Filipino guy is way to sensitive ''

    This brings up another thought I have been having. How does a person lose this sensitivity, after they have become allergic to certain comments and behaviours that have happened to them a bit too much? I am not expecting an answer to this, as nobody I asked has yet been able to answer it, but if anyone wants to give it a shot...



    I have a friend who is a psychologist. She says the strong feelings that come up when racial comments are made are 90% caused by what has happened in a persons past, and only 10% by what caused the outburst/reaction.



    ''Throwing out the Race card is highly inflammatory, I must say. Accusing someone of racism should be done lightly or on the spur of the moment. ''

    Have you succeeded in responding lightly to something which irritates the hell out of you? And, what if a possible threat is involved. This is the case with race comments. A person might want to shut up anyone making generalisings and others latching on to the generalisions, in case it starts becomming a work place 'truth', just because it is said often enough.



    ''That's very true, hearing things over and over again might make folks overly sensitive and prone to over reacting''

    I personally would apologise again, but keep it very simple, so he does not have something else to be p*ssed of at you about. I had a situation where I made a joke at work which I didnt think anybody could take seriously. Apparently somebody did, and the boss asked me to apologise. I apologised, because it is sometimes the simplest way to resolve things. Afterall, I really did not mean to piss off a colleague, so I could at least be sorry about that much.



    ''I think White people are, in general, sick of the term racism being thrown out at the drop of a hat. ''

    It is the price society will have to pay for a while, for hundreds of years of oppression. Best be careful not to prolong it, by putting more racism or even what can be peceived as racism out there.
    Holy crap. I really don't mean any offense to you personally, but that has got to be the biggest load of PC racist crap I've seen in awhile.

    **** that bull****. People need to get over themselves and realize they don't have a right not to be offended. And being offended is a choice THEY make for themselves. Especially their reaction to it.

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Let's say you are receiving a verbal report from a fellow from a another country originally, along with a handwritten reference sheet. This guy is from the Philippines. You can never read this fellow's handwriting. You tell him that his handwriting is difficult to read, and jokingly compare it to another co-worker's (well known to everyone) bad handwriting, who is also happens to be from the Philippines. Then you good humoredly note "you guys are even from the same country".

    This previously congenial colleague flies off the handle, extremely offended, and accusing you of racism, calling you a racist. You immediately try to sooth the situation, apologizing, but the co-worker has trouble getting over it. Other co-workers are dumbfounded at the fellows reaction too.
    There simply is NO racism here.
    Maybe a lack of sensitivity, but then this so-called offended man has skin that is too thin.
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    ''I think White people are, in general, sick of the term racism being thrown out at the drop of a hat. ''
    "White people"??
    IMO, this, by itself, is racist.

    But, I for one, am tired of people acting like fools.
    Last edited by earthworm; 05-19-10 at 04:24 PM. Reason: fools

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    Re: Is this racism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Let's say you are receiving a verbal report from a fellow from a another country originally, along with a handwritten reference sheet. This guy is from the Philippines. You can never read this fellow's handwriting. You tell him that his handwriting is difficult to read, and jokingly compare it to another co-worker's (well known to everyone) bad handwriting, who is also happens to befrom the Philippines. Then you good humoredly note "you guys are even from the same country".

    This previously congenial colleague flies off the handle, extremely offended, and accusing you of racism, calling you a racist. You immediately try to sooth the situation, apologizing, but the co-worker has trouble getting over it. Other co-workers are dumbfounded at the fellows reaction too.
    If he's Philipino, his reaction probably has little to do with his race and much to do with the fact that he is likely a flaming drama queen like most Philipino's I have ever met.

    I'm serious: I have met one straight philipino in my life. And even he was questionable.

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