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    Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    Reported I think a few days ago already but only now being mentioned in the MSM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    A State Department official's expression of regret in human rights talks with China over Arizona's new immigration law has sparked sharp protests from conservatives, but a State Department spokesman didn't respond to a request to comment on the concession.

    The AP reported that Assistant Secretary of State Michael Posner told reporters that "officials also discussed Chinese complaints about problems with U.S. human rights, which have included crime, poverty, homelessness and racial discrimination.
    Ok. The U.S. has some warts. We're not perfect. And a frank discussion with China about our general foibles and imperfections as a country, about policy isn't such a bad thing. But let's dig a bit deeper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Politico
    QUESTION: Did the recently passed Arizona immigration law come up? And, if so, did they bring it up or did you bring it up?

    ASSISTANT SECRETARY POSNER: We brought it up early and often. It was mentioned in the first session, and as a troubling trend in our society and an indication that we have to deal with issues of discrimination or potential discrimination, and that these are issues very much being debated in our own society.


    Quote Originally Posted by Politico

    Writes Power Line's John Hinderaker:

    What an idiot! China murdered millions of its citizens who opposed the government's Communist policies and allows most of its people little or no freedom. We, on the other hand, enforce our immigration laws. No, wait — actually we don't. That's why Arizona had to take a shot at it. Oh, by the way, Michael Posner, you clueless moron — China actually does enforce its immigration laws.
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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    Perhaps if Obama dealt with the illegal alien problem, by first building a fence, he wouldn't have to feel like he needs to go to china to apologize for AZ enforcing federal law.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    I doubt very much if our corrupted sensationalism based news is reporting the truth.

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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Perhaps if Obama dealt with the illegal alien problem, by first building a fence, he wouldn't have to feel like he needs to go to china to apologize for AZ enforcing federal law.
    Any intelligent ideas on how to do this, Rev?
    Forget the fence - the stupidest idea of this generation, and a horrible waste of money.

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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Any intelligent ideas on how to do this, Rev?
    Sanzari Construction, they build the hell out of things around here.... Have you seen the "xanadu" mess here in NJ?

    They could build a wall out of that at half the price.


    Forget the fence - the stupidest idea of this generation, and a horrible waste of money.

    Why. Calling an idea "stupid" without explanation don't count as intellectual discourse my friend.


    Is that my only idea?

    nah, major Jail time for any employer who knowingly hires an illegal alien. Major jail time for any illegal alien who fakes documentation, then immediate deportation bill sent to mexico.
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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Perhaps if Obama dealt with the illegal alien problem, by first building a fence, he wouldn't have to feel like he needs to go to china to apologize for AZ enforcing federal law.
    So you want to be like China and build a Great Wall of the United States?

    Thanks but no thanks. I don't need my Government to wall us inside our country.
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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    What a fool our president is. He is totally acting like a spoiled child in regards to this AZ law. He doesn't like it, so he prances around talking about how it's a racist violation of human rights... His administration is literally starting to make me sick. He doesn't understand why the law was passed and spins everything to reflect some pseudo-reality that he wants to live in and accept. The AZ law is not racist, it isn't a violation of human rights either. The true violation of human rights is not upholding immigration laws and allowing the US to be invaded be illegal aliens.

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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    This is truly absurd. Where have all the grown ups gone!?

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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Any intelligent ideas on how to do this, Rev?
    Forget the fence - the stupidest idea of this generation, and a horrible waste of money.
    Why is it a stupid idea? It works for Israel.

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    Re: Obama Admin apologizing to China for AZ

    The American people are getting fed up with the illegal immigrant problem, and frustrated with the communities that harbor them. Those communities, such as the Mexican American one, seem to be at odds with the whole meaning of citizenship, but instead more identifying with their own ethnic group as 'their people'. This is really the antithesis of the American ideal that Obama claims to share.

    For him to go apologizing to foreign leaders for what is an internal dispute in these United States, is a slap in the face to his own citizenry, especially when apologizing to a nation that routinely violates the basic human rights of citizens without remorse.

    Obama is pandering for the Hispanic vote. They have a high birthrate, after all, and are the up and coming minority group. Didn't they go for Bush in the election?

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