View Poll Results: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't think we can discriminate against legal voters. what about a brand new citizen, who has not yet mastered our language. wouldn't you want them to be informed when they vote?
    "Brand new" LEGAL citizens have ample time to assimilate. Our legal immigrants have to jump through a few years of bureaucratic hoops.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    "Brand new" LEGAL citizens have ample time to assimilate. Our legal immigrants have to jump through a few years of bureaucratic hoops.
    Personally, I think that wait time is too long.

    Should be a year or perhaps two at most, depending on circumstances, history, etc.
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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I think that wait time is too long.

    Should be a year or perhaps two at most, depending on circumstances, history, etc.
    In most circumstances, I agree.

    Determining the financial stability... or potential for it, a modicum of emotional stability, criminal history and a hint of sanity....as is required in almost every other country on the planet prior to opening the doors, takes time for a massive bureaucracy. Surely you've been to the DMV.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    In most circumstances, I agree.

    Determining the financial stability... or potential for it, a modicum of emotional stability, criminal history and a hint of sanity....as is required in almost every other country on the planet prior to opening the doors, takes time for a massive bureaucracy. Surely you've been to the DMV.
    Only for an hour or two.

    For a 15-30 min test.

    Or to register a car.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    "Brand new" LEGAL citizens have ample time to assimilate. Our legal immigrants have to jump through a few years of bureaucratic hoops.
    Brand new citizens IE naturalized citizens have to pass a english comprehension test before they can even become naturalized citizens. So the idea that a brand new citizen can not understand english is laughable and absurd.
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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Brand new citizens IE naturalized citizens have to pass a english comprehension test before they can even become naturalized citizens. So the idea that a brand new citizen can not understand english is laughable and absurd.
    I didn't realize there was a law that they had to speak it forever. Also...

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    We should also add the provision that any text that is intended for public consumption (i.e. descriptions of issues on ballots, etc.) should be written in common English that the average person only needs to read once to understand.
    Apparently english speakers dont even understand the ballots or something.

    So how can a citizen by birth, having gone to school and learned English as their primary language, having grown up in a country where English is the primary and common language, be more comfortable reading in Spanish?

    I obviously lack some information that would lead to my understanding why the situation is as you claim.
    Precisely, you're not latino.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    In most circumstances, I agree.

    Determining the financial stability... or potential for it, a modicum of emotional stability, criminal history and a hint of sanity....as is required in almost every other country on the planet prior to opening the doors, takes time for a massive bureaucracy. Surely you've been to the DMV.
    a world renowned brain surgeon from say India ought to get cleared faster than a dishwasher from China.



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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yes...And?

    How does that change my point?
    If you want to restrict voting based on people's understanding of the language or the system, you'll have to look seriously at our own population.
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    shocked2 Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Only for an hour or two.

    For a 15-30 min test.

    Or to register a car.

    Is that all you would require?

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Is that all you would require?
    In my area, yes.

    Not as busy as, say, New York City and surrounding areas, perhaps.

    The Harrisburg DMV/PennDOT complex.
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