View Poll Results: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

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    18 18.95%
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    12 12.63%
  • Ballots in the United States should only be in English

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Whether or not we should have one language is a separate issue from whether or not ballots should be printed in languages other than English.

    It's one thing to have English be the language of day-to-day government affairs, but I think voting is a bit different since citizens have a right to vote. The government can make reasonable accommodations for the most commonly spoken languages, without having to print up ballots in 2,000 different languages.
    Exactly.
    Important things should be as easy to understand as possible.

    Instructions aren't written in multiple languages for no reason, they're written in multiple languages because it's very important that the person reading and following them can understand everything.

    It's a completely different issue than a unified or national language.
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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The government should only provide ballots in one language and that is english. According to the constitution only citizens(19th amendment) shall not be denied the right. In order to be a citizen you must have either been born here(which means you should already know english) or naturalized(which requires that you pass a english compression test). The government should not cater to lazy ****s who refuse to learn our language. So the answer to the poll is not only no but hell no.Especially seeing how you must be a US citizen to even register to vote.
    I hate to bust your chops to prove a point, but seriously dude...

    YOU should already know that the language known as English is always capitalized.

    What is "english compression?"

    Your punctuation leaves something to be desired, too.

    Are you one of those lazy ****s that refuses to learn our language?

    The point is this: a significant number of people born and raised here either can't read English or write well enough to be properly understood by other English speakers. They do things like james has done; try to convey ideas using incorrect / misspelled words, improper punctuation, and poor sentence structure.

    You and I can figure out what james is trying to get across, but his post might well be unintelligible to those who speak English as a second language. As already noted, political and fiscal issues are difficult enough to understand as it is. I'd like voters to be SURE of what they're voting for before they check the box.

    If that means we translate for them, so be it. Ballots should be offered in the languages most prevalent among the constituency being polled.




    Besides, I'm a proofreader of foreign language election materials. It keeps me in beer and Skittles.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    English only. If you cannot speak English, chances are that you couldn't immerse yourself properly in American culture or economics.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    English only. If you cannot speak English, chances are that you couldn't immerse yourself properly in American culture or economics.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    And you wonder why the rest of the world cant stand Americans.
    I don't think that's really true. It's a stereotype and gross exaggeration.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    I hate to bust your chops to prove a point, but seriously dude...

    YOU should already know that the language known as English is always capitalized.

    What is "english compression?"

    Your punctuation leaves something to be desired, too.

    Are you one of those lazy ****s that refuses to learn our language?

    The point is this: a significant number of people born and raised here either can't read English or write well enough to be properly understood by other English speakers. They do things like james has done; try to convey ideas using incorrect / misspelled words, improper punctuation, and poor sentence structure.

    You and I can figure out what james is trying to get across, but his post might well be unintelligible to those who speak English as a second language. As already noted, political and fiscal issues are difficult enough to understand as it is. I'd like voters to be SURE of what they're voting for before they check the box.

    If that means we translate for them, so be it. Ballots should be offered in the languages most prevalent among the constituency being polled.




    Besides, I'm a proofreader of foreign language election materials. It keeps me in beer and Skittles.
    How does you being a grammar Nazi change the fact that if you are a naturalized(english proficiency is one of the requirements to be a naturalized citizen) or a natural born citizen change the fact that you should be able to proficiently write, speak and read english(look I didn't capitalize english again)? If are a lazy **** who does not know how to proficiently speak or read english(look I didn't capitalize english again) then most likely you are not citizen and therefore have no right to vote in the first place. So there is no reason ballots should be bi or multilingual.
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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    As much as I'd love all U.S. citizens to speak one language, that is an unreasonable expectation. Immigrants come from all over the world and their English can be very broken.
    Uhhhhhhh......... FAIL!!!!!

    Section 312 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provides that most applicants for naturalization demonstrate an understanding of the English language, including an ability to read, write, and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language, as well as a knowledge of U.S. government and history (civics)1. This document provides a general description of how the U.S. Naturalization Test is evaluated and scored by Officers of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS).
    SPEAKING: An applicant’s verbal skills are determined by the applicant’s answers to questions normally asked by USCIS Officers during the naturalization eligibility interview. USCIS Officers are required to repeat and rephrase questions until the Officer is satisfied that the applicant either fully understands the question or does not understand English. If the applicant generally understands and can respond meaningfully to questions relevant to the determination of eligibility, the applicant has demonstrated the ability to speak English.
    READING: To sufficiently demonstrate the ability to read in English, applicants must read one sentence, out of three sentences, in a manner suggesting to the USCIS Officer that the applicant appears to understand the meaning of the sentence. Once the applicant reads one of three sentences correctly, USCIS procedures require that the USCIS Officer will stop administering the reading test. Applicants shall not be failed because of their accent when speaking English. A general description of how the reading test is scored follows:
    http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Resources...Guidelines.pdf
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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    English should be our official language, and required for citizenship. Using one language is the most efficient method of conducting commerce. It is also the language that our founding documents were written.
    It is...........and BTW, voting in a Federal election for non-citizens is grounds for never getting citizenship.

    I really don't understand the poll.... just follow the law.
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    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    I neither wonder, nor care. I'm blessed to not give a damn what others think, and not live in a state that rolls over and plays dead like an opossum when invaded by illegals.

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    Re: Should the government provide ballots in languages other than English?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    if you are ... a natural born citizen ... you should be able to proficiently write, speak and read english
    "English" should be capitalized. You've failed your own lame test, because YOU can't write proficiently in English.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If are a lazy **** who does not know how to proficiently speak or read english then most likely you are not citizen and therefore have no right to vote in the first place. So there is no reason ballots should be bi or multilingual.
    "If are a lazy...?" What does "if are" mean? Again, you've failed your own lame test, because YOU can't write proficiently in English, so, using your logic, you must be "a lazy ****" and

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    most likely you are not a citizen and therefore have no right to vote in the first place.
    Finally, by your own standards, since you cannot express yourself proficiently in written English and are therefore most likely not a citizen and have no right to vote in the first place, how about leaving this to actual Americans to discuss?




    Jesus. It's like talking to a dining room table.

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