View Poll Results: What and how much should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

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  • A 100% of the cost of the clean up.

    42 80.77%
  • Some of the cost of the clean up(please specify)

    5 9.62%
  • A 100% of what the fishermen lost as a result of the spill

    19 36.54%
  • Only some of what the fishermen lost as a result of the spill(please specify)

    9 17.31%
  • A 100% loss of what any business/company lost as a direct result of that spill.

    19 36.54%
  • Some of the what those other businesses lost as a direct result of the spill(please specify)

    8 15.38%
  • none of the above

    4 7.69%
  • other

    6 11.54%
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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    So, in other words, 'foreign oil' really means 'Middle Eastern oil', correct?
    That hate against foreign oil is mostly for political points.
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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    From what I understand, they are only liable for 75 million, which is why I expect the American taxpayer will pick up the tab for the rest of the damages and lost wages/industry.
    This is a popular misconception. BP is liable for the entire costs of clean up. The $75m cap is on incidental damages, e.g. costs created by decreased tourism, loss of work, etc.
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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Depending on the details of this incident (I have no idea what they are), some portion of the blame probably rests with BP.

    But I am sure it is not solely to blame.

    That never happens.
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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Trial lawyers are loving this.

    Think of all the money they will make off of this incident.
    This is why we have courts and this is why trial lawyers are necessary.

    This is (will be) very, very complex. There are several villains and many, many, many victims. Untangling this mess including, identifying the culprits, assigning the fair degree of blame, identifying the victims and assessing their specific damages, is going to take some work. The courts are there to make sure the process is as fair as practical.

    Everyone gets their day in court..... for BP, TransOcean and Halliburton (and probably the US Dept of Interior), may those days be long and numerous.

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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    This is funny, hearing everyone talk about these guys needing to pay for 100% of the damage costs. Why don't we hear the same cry for air pollution or water pollution? No, we need to cap those instead. Seems to me that's a lot of hypocrisy.
    ... because people like you swear it's having zero or no effect on our planet. This 'accident' on the other hand has a verifiable clear as daylight effect on the environment. We don't need to have 100 page long debates on a fact which much of the scientific community agrees on. We don't have to debate made up e-mail controversies etc. We don't have to debate whether Al Gore invented the interwebz. It's simple. BP has as of today destroyed the livelihoods of thousands because of the 'Drill Baby Drill' mentality. End of story. Two separate issues.
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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... because people like you swear it's having zero or no effect on our planet.
    I don't make that claim so your whole post therefore is worthless. Local pollution does indeed cause serious damage.

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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... because people like you swear it's having zero or no effect on our planet. This 'accident' on the other hand has a verifiable clear as daylight effect on the environment. We don't need to have 100 page long debates on a fact which much of the scientific community agrees on. We don't have to debate made up e-mail controversies etc. We don't have to debate whether Al Gore invented the interwebz. It's simple. BP has as of today destroyed the livelihoods of thousands because of the 'Drill Baby Drill' mentality. End of story. Two separate issues.
    Wow...

    Ok, obviously the incident had an negative effect on the local environment. Anyone who questions that is insane.

    Stating that a single entity has cause this incident is total BS and insane too.

    Blaming the "Drill Baby Drill" mentality is also total BS and insane.

    The multiple issues involved here are FAR more nuanced than that.
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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?



    I voted other because there wasn’t a 100% plus another 50% for some of the s*** they have most likely skated by the last fifty years in countries like this.


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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Wow...

    Ok, obviously the incident had an negative effect on the local environment. Anyone who questions that is insane.

    Stating that a single entity has cause this incident is total BS and insane too.

    Blaming the "Drill Baby Drill" mentality is also total BS and insane.

    The multiple issues involved here are FAR more nuanced than that.
    I'm mostly pissed because they didn't ensure their shut off valves worked correctly... they not working the one time they are needed cannot be a coincidence. Either they used a faulty system or they didn't keep it up to par.

    Not only that but they didn't have any back up plans (that worked) ready to go. This is all trial and error they're doing right now... meanwhile they are destroying the local environment.

    Yes, these things can happen and I am willing to accept that... but as a major company that has the potential of causing havoc on the local environment if heaven forbid something happens, you need to have your **** together to reduce collateral damage. They have billions of dollars in profit and they would rather spend that on law suits and major cleanup rather than ensuring spilled oil is kept to a minimum after a disaster? That's what it looks like to me right now.

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    Re: How much and what should BP pay for as a result of the oil spill?

    Spill baby spill.
    Enough with the dirty, deadly and disgusting oil and coal. Let's get clean, let's go green. Enough is enough!!

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