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Your Favorite President?

Just post the name of your favorite president and I'll post a poll later with the top ten most listed options.

If you want to, go ahead and post why you think they kick ass; maybe this'll generate some interesting debate. :)
my time, clinton, hands down.
 
In the US: Lincoln, of all obvious reasons. I think he's the most noncontrovesial, famous, popular, and best judged president ever.
In South Korea: The late Kim-Dae-Jung for his effort at reunification, along with several reforms, winning the Nobel Peace Prize, and remaining as one of the few Korean politicians relatively free and clean of corruption and bribery.
 
I also find it odd that some people are saying FDR and George Washington. Hello, opposite sides of the spectrum. :shock:
 
I also find it odd that some people are saying FDR and George Washington. Hello, opposite sides of the spectrum. :shock:

You cannot respect some one from the other side of the political spectrum? Why not?
 
How can anyone like Thomas Jefferson & FDR? That'd be like liking Guns & Roses and Flock of Seagulls.

Oh good grief. :roll:

You have to look at each for their respective time periods and what they accomplished.

By the way, do you think the Jefferson who wrote about limited government before the Constitution would agree with the Jefferson who expanded government by buying the Louisiana Purchase and otherwise making decisions to expand the federal government? ;)
 
You cannot respect some one from the other side of the political spectrum? Why not?

It's clear that some posters here are so blinded by partisanship that they see the world in black and white -- if you don't agree with them 100% of the time, you are the enemy.

It certainly seems to be the rallying cry of conservatives these days -- the "Party of No" does not understand that politics is all about compromise and negotiations.
 
Oh good grief. :roll:

You have to look at each for their respective time periods and what they accomplished.

By the way, do you think the Jefferson who wrote about limited government before the Constitution would agree with the Jefferson who expanded government by buying the Louisiana Purchase and otherwise making decisions to expand the federal government? ;)

Hey, come on Groucho, that flock of seagulls had the baddest ass hair on the planet at one time.
 
Ooooooooooooooooooookay..... :doh

Since you insist, here is an easy read about him. You might also find his writings in the federalist papers interesting, also.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison]James Madison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
As a President.... FDR, Clinton in that order.

As a human being... Jimmy Carter, by some distance.
 
Probably Clinton. Clinton was likable and that is what irked so many of his critics. He was likable to the point where more than 10 years after he was President he can still go to North Korea and rescue people. You have people STILL making jokes about Monica. NOT Bill. Monica. Any other president would have faded into total or near obscurity today or become a joke to most people. Clinton is still the guy people call to party.
 
Ooooooooooooooooooookay..... :doh

Reading about History is good for you.

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison]James Madison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/James-Madison-Father-constitution-1787-1800/dp/B0007FE8EW/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1273682205&sr=8-9]Amazon.com: James Madison: Father of the constitution, 1787-1800: Irving Brant: Books[/ame]


[ame=http://www.amazon.com/James-Madison-Constitution-Revolutionary-Leaders/dp/0791061302/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1273682205&sr=8-11]Amazon.com: James Madison: Father of the Constitution (Revolutionary War Leaders) (9780791061305): Brent P. Kelley, Arthur Meier Schlesinger: Books[/ame]


Reading is good it does make you learn about other people.
 
Grover Cleveland.
 
James Madison.

He's mine as well.

Although Jefferson was credited earlier for the bill of rights and constitution earlier by someone, Madison was more influential during this period as Jefferson was in France performing his diplomatic duties there. Jefferson and Madison tended to agree with each other on many issues, though.

Madison also opposed Hamiltonianism (along with Jefferson) and was the the author of the federalist papers I agree with most strongly. In fact, if we had stayed with Madison's vision of the constitution, instead of veering towards Hamilton's, my own anti-federalist ideologies would have never become a footnote in the annals of U.S. history.

Inaction on the parts of his predecessors was a major factor in the war of 1812 (which tarnishes his legacy), but overall I must say his pre-presidential contributions as well as some of his presidential actions make him an easy #1 for me.

Jefferson and Polk probably round out my top three.

Personality wise, though, it's Teddy Roosevelt all the way.
 
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Madison also opposed Hamiltonianism (along with Jefferson) and was the the author of the federalist papers I agree with most strongly. In fact, if we had stayed with Madison's vision of the constitution, instead of veering towards Hamilton's, my own anti-federalist ideologies would have never become a footnote in the annals of U.S. history.

Wikipedia said:
During and after the war, Madison reversed many of his positions. By 1815, he supported the creation of the second National Bank, a strong military, and a high tariff to protect the new factories opened during the war.

Why I didn't pick Madison.
 
Why I didn't pick Madison.

His last act before leaving office was vetoing a spending bill for internal improvements:

“Having considered the bill…I am constrained by the insuperable difficulty I feel in reconciling this bill with the Constitution of the United States…The legislative powers vested in Congress are specified...in the…Constitution, and it does not appear that the power proposed to be exercised by the bill is among the enumerated powers…”

His stance on the General Welfare Clause:

“Such a view of the Constitution would have the effect of giving to Congress a general power of legislation instead of the defined and limited one hitherto understood to belong to them, the terms ‘common defense and general welfare’ embracing every object and act within the purview of a legislative trust.”

The Tax Foundation - President James Madison and Pork-Barrel Spending

The way the Wiki statements you quoted is worded is misleading. He never became a Federalist.
 
He never became a federalist, but I don't look at petty classifications like that. His actions speak louder. A classical liberal never would have supported a central bank or protectionism.
 
He never became a federalist, but I don't look at petty classifications like that. His actions speak louder. A classical liberal never would have supported a central bank or protectionism.

Things were a lot different in those times. George Washington was an isolationist according to his farewell address, which is something unimaginable today.
 
^^I could imagine it. It would get us out of a lot of trouble.
 
He never became a federalist, but I don't look at petty classifications like that. His actions speak louder. A classical liberal never would have supported a central bank or protectionism.

Having to go to war, and getting his ass handed to him, clearly changed his mind on some things.
 
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