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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    I have a confession to make. I have owned an iPod, iPhone, 2 blackberries, a MacBook, 3 PCs and a flat screen TV. I don't know how to program our alarm clock.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I have a confession to make. I have owned an iPod, iPhone, 2 blackberries, a MacBook, 3 PCs and a flat screen TV. I don't know how to program our alarm clock.
    You are doomed, sir.

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    So you really believe he DOESN'T know how to operate those things?

    What other poll options are there?
    Many are possible...
    • Other
    • This poll is stupid.
    • Don't care.
    • Obama may have difficulties with some technology.
    • I'm just here for the tittie pics.


    Other problems:

    1. A poll should never be phrased as a negative. So, instead of "Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?", more properly the poll should be phrased as:

    "Do you believe that Obama knows how to work technology?"

    2. The term "really" is unnecessary and implies that he is lying.

    3. Ideally, a poll would include more than a false dichotomy (affirmative or hard negative). The term "of course" turns both of the negative responses into hard negatives. Thus, your poll is inherently skewed and illogical. It forces people to pick one of three equally untenable options.

    When I create a poll (for work), I usually try to provide at least 5 options. Hard affirmitive, soft affirmative, unsure/other (please explain), soft negative, hard negative. That eliminates the issue of a poll being based upon a false dichotomy.

    Creating a poll without bias is actually an art form. But, to be truthful, I think you WANTED a biased poll to reaffirm your own paradigms.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 05-12-10 at 01:01 PM.

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    • Other
    • This poll is stupid.
    • Don't care.
    • Obama may have difficulties with some technology.
    • I'm just here for the tittie pics.


    Durr.

    Also, a poll should never be phrased as a negative. So, instead of "Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?", more properly the poll should be phrased as:

    "Do you believe that Obama knows how to work technology?"

    The term "really" is unnecessary and implies that he is lying.

    Further, ideally a poll would include more than a false dichotomy (affirmative or hard negative). The term "of course" turns both of the negative responses into hard negatives. Thus, your poll is inherently skewed and illogical. It forces people to pick one of three equally untenable options.

    When I create a poll (for work), I usually try to provide at least 5 options. Hard affirmitive, soft affirmative, unsure/other (please explain), soft negative, hard negative. That eliminates the issue of a poll being based upon a false dichotomy.

    Creating a poll without bias is actually an art form. But, to be truthful, I think you WANTED a biased poll to reaffirm your own paradigms.
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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Many are possible...
    • Other
    • This poll is stupid.
    • Don't care.
    • Obama may have difficulties with some technology.
    • I'm just here for the tittie pics.


    Other problems:

    1. A poll should never be phrased as a negative. So, instead of "Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?", more properly the poll should be phrased as:

    "Do you believe that Obama knows how to work technology?"

    2. The term "really" is unnecessary and implies that he is lying.

    3. Ideally, a poll would include more than a false dichotomy (affirmative or hard negative). The term "of course" turns both of the negative responses into hard negatives. Thus, your poll is inherently skewed and illogical. It forces people to pick one of three equally untenable options.

    When I create a poll (for work), I usually try to provide at least 5 options. Hard affirmitive, soft affirmative, unsure/other (please explain), soft negative, hard negative. That eliminates the issue of a poll being based upon a false dichotomy.

    Creating a poll without bias is actually an art form. But, to be truthful, I think you WANTED a biased poll to reaffirm your own paradigms.
    Awesome, move over good reverend.

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    There's really no reason for me to retype something I already basically said multiple days ago in another thread so...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Is it wrong that the first thing that jumped out at me, more so than his message, was the utter bull**** nature of it?

    Its actually one of the things I detest most about Barack Obama. He is a 100%, complete, wholey, political machine. There's essentially NOTHING else there when he speaks. I can not listen to the man without immediately realizing and viewing it through the filter that he's the truest definition of the bull**** politician I have ever seen in my life.

    Why did this immediately jump out at me?

    "With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work -- information becomes a distraction"

    So, aside from the message that we're a culture that is SO information rich that we're inundated with so much info that its hard to tell fact from opinion and pure fiction, is the notion that somehow much of this technology we have is actually bad. That its distracting, that its something to not even bother learning or using, to the point where our President himself doesn't bother with it.

    And yet, if my memory serves me from a year or so back...

    Barack Obama gifts for the Queen: an Ipod your Majesty

    Barack Obama met the Queen at Buckingham Palace today and gave her a gift of an iPod loaded with video footage and photographs of her 2007 United States visit to Richmond, Jamestown and Williamsburg in Virginia.
    Wait, so President Obama gave the Queen of England an object of distraction and diversion that is so damaging to our very culture that Barack Obama doesn't even bother to learn how to use one? A piece of technology he's seemingly attributing part of the blame for the downfall of intellectual observation of fact from fiction?

    But...wait a moment. He doesn't know how to use an iPod. But...I could've swore, in 2008, back when it was important to make him look hip and cool for the youngin's that...ah yes, rolling stone

    Barack Obama's iPod: Bob Dylan, Yo-Yo Ma, Sheryl Crow, Jay-Z

    The Illinois senator's playlist contains these musicians, along with about 30 songs from Dylan and the singer's "Blood on the Tracks" album.
    That's right, there was an entire piece about what's on Barack Obama's Ipod, making him identifiable and "hip" to the youth of America who were tired of backwards out of touch politician...you know, like that cowboy George Bush or old guy John McCain.

    Sorry, this is what I can't stand about the guy and why even when he makes relatively decent points I can't take them at face value and ASSUME he's saying them for wholly benevolent reasons and not specifically for calculated, planned, political reasons.

    This statement by him was not simply about misinformation or people being to easily led by what's "Fake" or not. This was not him speaking just as much about the Michael Moore's and John Stewarts of the world as he is the Rush Limbaugh's and Bill O'Riely's. This is completely and utterly him attempting to use a school ceremony at a predominantly black school to push a political message to spread out into the masses.

    Perhaps at some point I may've been able to give him a break, but I just can't anymore. His dishonesty, his disingenuous attitude, his utter and complete fake "above the frey" persona is nothing but a cheap, insulting, cover of a pure political beast to the very core.
    He said it for the same reason he says everything. It was what was political advantageous at that time to state to make the point he wanted to make to push his political agenda, and nothing more. The man is a political machine and nothing else, everything and anything coming out of his mouth can not be taken as anything more than that, any more truth than that, because truth for him is completely and utterly a maleable object that can be contorted to whatever design is needed in any given instance.

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I've never used any of those things either, so the same applies to me, I guess.

    Obama is known for his blackberry, though, so he's not completely computer illiterate; I'm sure he could learn all those things easily enough ... as could I. But that doesn't make his statement a lie.
    Me too! I have a Droid phone, but I haven't used any of those things he lists and would not know what to do if handed one.

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's because the Japanese already bought him off. We're bailing them out next.
    I heard he was born in Tokyo.
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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    There's really no reason for me to retype something I already basically said multiple days ago in another thread so...



    He said it for the same reason he says everything. It was what was political advantageous at that time to state to make the point he wanted to make to push his political agenda, and nothing more. The man is a political machine and nothing else, everything and anything coming out of his mouth can not be taken as anything more than that, any more truth than that, because truth for him is completely and utterly a maleable object that can be contorted to whatever design is needed in any given instance.

    I could say the same thing about you. Talk about political hackery.

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    Re: Do you really believe that Obama doesn't know how to work technology?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I could say the same thing about you. Talk about political hackery.
    I actually gave an argument, facts, background for my opinions in my response.

    Notice, you gave none of them.

    Seriously, I'm one of the most likely conservatives on this forum to routinely criticize or even outright rip other conservatives, republicans, politicians, whatever when they are acting stupid or going against their principles. You're comment would make sense if it was grounded in any sort of reality, which its not.

    Nice worthless one liner that was utterly and completely focused on the poster though.

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