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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    He is a naturalized citizen as per the 14th. BTW he can not run for Prez but as far as I know he could be SCOZTUS Justice.
    I am only going by what you said: "14th Amendment, one must be born in the US to have Constitutional rights." Born in the US

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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    14th Amendment, one must be born in the US to have Constitutional rights.
    Ah. You must be reading the biazrro world version of the 14th amendment, because mine says no such thing.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Hmmmm.... I guess we can flush that GOP talking point down the toilet.
    That might be true if you can show how past precedent equates to actual qualification and negates any argument regarding the lack of same.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That might be true if you can show how past precedent equates to actual qualification and negates any argument regarding the lack of same.
    Translation please.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I far as I know... All GOP talking points should be preceded by 'as far as I know...'
    Well I'm just here for the education. If you know differently you need to share.


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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Chief Justices

    John Jay..............................Governor
    John Rutledge......................Governor
    Oliver Ellsworth....................Senator
    John Marshall.......................Secretary of State
    Roger Taney.........................Secretary of the Treasury, U.S. Attorney General
    Salmon Chase......................Secretary of the Treasury, Governor
    Morrison Waite.....................Lawyer
    Melville Fuller.......................Representative
    Edward White.......................Lawyer
    William Howard Taft..............U.S. President
    Charles Hughes....................Secretary of State
    Harlan Stone........................Attorney General
    Fred Vinson..........................Secretary of the Treasury
    Earl Warren..........................Governor


    Associate Justices

    William Cushing...................Member, Continental Congress
    James Wilson......................Member, Continental Congress
    William Paterson..................Governor
    Samuel Chase.....................Member, Maryland General Assembly; Continental Congress
    Bushrod Washington............Lawyer
    William Johnson..................Representative, S.C. House
    Henry B. Livingston.............Military
    Gabriel Duvall.....................Representative
    Joseph Story.......................Representative
    Smith Thompson.................Secretary of the Navy
    John McLean.......................Unknown
    Henry Baldwin....................Representative
    James M. Wayne.................Mayor, Representative
    Philip P. Barbour..................Representative
    John McKinley.....................Senator, Representative
    Levi Woodbury....................Governor, Secretary of the Treasury, Secretary of the Navy
    Benjamin Curtis..................Lawyer
    John Campbell....................Lawyer
    Nathan Clifford....................Attorney General
    Noah Swayne......................Member, Ohio Legislature, U.S. Attorney
    Samuel Miller......................Lawyer
    David Davis........................Senator
    Joseph Bradley....................Lawyer
    John M. Harlan (I)...............Kentucky Attorney General
    Stanley Matthews................U.S. Attorney, Military
    Horace Gray........................Lawyer
    Lucius Lamar.......................Member, Georgia House, Secretary of the Interior
    George Shiras, Jr.................Lawyer
    Howell Jackson....................Member, Tennessee House
    Edward D. White..................Lawyer
    William Henry Moody............Attorney General
    Mahlon Pitney.....................Congress (office unspecified)
    James McReynolds...............Attorney General
    Louis Brandeis.....................Lawyer
    George Sutherland...............Congress (office unspecified)
    Pierce Butler.......................Lawyer
    Edward Sanford...................Attorney General
    Owen Roberts......................Assistant District Attorney
    Hugo L. Black......................Senator
    Stanley Forman Reed...........Solicitor General
    Felix Frankfurter..................Lawyer
    William O. Douglas...............Law Professor, Chairman of SEC
    Frank Murphy......................Mayor, Governor, Attorney General
    James Francis Byrnes...........Secretary of State
    Robert H. Jackson................Attorney General
    Harold Hitz Burton................Senator
    Tom Clark...........................Attorney General
    John M. Harlan (II)..............Lawyer
    Arthur J. Goldberg...............Secretary of Labor
    Abe Fortas..........................President and Chairman of the SEC
    Thurgood Marshall...............Lawyer
    Lewis F. Powell....................Lawyer

    Let's see, two of the most influential legal minds of the 20th century were not judges before being appointed to the court.

    Hmmmm.... I guess we can flush that GOP talking point down the toilet.
    Thanks for posting that list. A lot of the Supreme Court's most important justices - both liberals and conservatives - are on it.

    I don't think there's any evidence that would suggest that former judges make better Supreme Court justices than non-judges...which makes it rather silly to attack her experience IMO.
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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That might be true if you can show how past precedent equates to actual qualification and negates any argument regarding the lack of same.
    When you criticize Kagan's lack of experience, I assume that you're implying that her lack of judicial experience means that she won't be as good of a judge as someone with more experience. Is that a fair assumption for me to make?

    If so, then the list provides some evidence to the contrary. All you need to do is look at that list to see plenty of very influential people (across the political spectrum) who weren't previously judges. On what are you basing your belief that those without previous judicial experience make inferior Supreme Court justices?
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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Is there a more updated version of that list? It ends 50 years ago!

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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Ah. You must be reading the biazrro world version of the 14th amendment, because mine says no such thing.
    Sheesh get a sense of humor guys:

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    A ham sandwich as mentioned in the post I was responding to does not fullfill the above criteria. Hence a ham sandwich could never be appointed to the SCOTUS.

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    Re: Should Supreme Court justices have had experience being a judge at some point?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Sheesh get a sense of humor guys:

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    A ham sandwich as mentioned in the post I was responding to does not fullfill the above criteria. Hence a ham sandwich could never be appointed to the SCOTUS.
    I understand and agree. My post was in response to this:

    Originally Posted by winston53660
    14th Amendment, one must be born in the US to have Constitutional rights.


    This is blatantly false.

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