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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Slavery is when one benefits from the labor of another in inequity. Capitalism is slavery.
    By the same token, one could say that the provision of welfare is slavery.

    No matter one's perspective, every single life requires labor, either paid or forced.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Murderers eliminate the choice of the pre-murder victim, so it is an anti slavery law.
    But it also has a coercive effect on the murderer due to the threat of punishment, this is essentially how any law works.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    But it also has a coercive effect on the murderer due to the threat of punishment, this is essentially how any law works.
    Sure but you have to weigh which is greater, to enslave a person for no logical reason or enslave a person for a logical reason.

    Murder is an act of unreasonable force, like theft.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Any form of imposing authority on another is oppression at the least. Slavery is when one benefits from the labor of another in inequity.
    Given your defitnion, would you agree that slavery also covers forcing people to provide welfare benefits?
    Why not?

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You don't have to be bought and sold, if there is only one owner.
    If you can't make a choice of whether or not you want to do something, you are enslaved to that person or entity.
    Give me an example in America where you do not have a choice.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Give me an example in America where you do not have a choice.
    We are not talking about just America. We are talking about slavery in general as a term and if it is subjective.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    We are not talking about just America. We are talking about slavery in general as a term and if it is subjective.
    No example then? Ok, how about in the world. Give me an example.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Sure but you have to weigh which is greater, to enslave a person for no logical reason or enslave a person for a logical reason.

    Murder is an act of unreasonable force, like theft.
    The problem with that response is than you get into a discussion of whether moral considerations are sufficient for this type of enslavement. This is why I never like "greater good" arguments.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Given your defitnion, would you agree that slavery also covers forcing people to provide welfare benefits?
    Why not?
    To be honest it is not. You are not being forced to do anything. You are paying your taxes to support the government. After that it is not your money to control.

    You are represented by others who then decide what the money is used for.

    It is allot of things, slavery is not one of them.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Give me an example in America where you do not have a choice.
    Child support and alimony.
    Registering for selective service, is a quasi choice.
    You can not do it but you will face sanctions.

    I have few choices when it comes to superficial things like which TV channels I want to buy.
    My choices on insurance have been limited.

    There are many things where your choices are restrained or eliminated.
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