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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    "Slavery (also called thralldom) is a form of forced labour in which people are considered to be the property of others."

    Slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's a done deal.
    Now wait. You say the dictionary is not good enough. You use the encyclopedia which also agreed with me. Now Wikipedia is good enough?

    You are correct.

    We are done here.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 05-11-10 at 12:17 AM.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    I plan to stay up late, and sleep in tomorrow. Just because I feel like it. Can a slave do that. Or can you?
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Now wait. You say the dictionary is not good enough. You use the encyclopedia which also agreed with me. Now Wikipedia is good enough?

    You are correct.

    We are done here.
    Hey, Wikipedia is a peer-reviewed site. It is good to go.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    For some things yes. Working for someone else is a form of slavery. This is not a bad form of slavery, but some can't make a life for themselfs without the job. So this is a form of slavery.

    So it is in some cases subjective, and based solely on opinion or perspective.
    When I have a job, I am not working for someone else.

    I am in business for myself, and my employer is my costumer. I work for me, not them.

    In this way I am not a slave.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Now wait. You say the dictionary is not good enough. You use the encyclopedia which also agreed with me. Now Wikipedia is good enough?

    You are correct.

    We are done here.
    Here's another:

    "slavery
    The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition | 2008 | Copyright
    slavery institution based on a relationship of dominance and submission, whereby one person owns another and can exact from that person labor or other services."

    slavery Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about slavery


    and another:

    "Condition in which one human being is owned by another."

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...548305/slavery
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Here's another:

    "slavery
    The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition | 2008 | Copyright
    slavery institution based on a relationship of dominance and submission, whereby one person owns another and can exact from that person labor or other services."

    slavery Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about slavery
    That is one type of slavery. It has more than one definition as I have shown.

    End of story.

    You can search the Internet all night and it will not make any difference. You can read the posts here and most agree it is not some set in stone definition. It is most definitely perspective.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is one type of slavery. It has more than one definition as I have shown.

    End of story.

    You can search the Internet all night and it will not make any difference. You can read the posts here and most agree it is not some set in stone definition. It is most definitely perspective.
    You have shown definitions that it is used as a figure of speech but that has little to do with the institution of slavery. You have not presented one counter-example of something that is slavery that does not include the concept of the ownership of people.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Here are more examples...

    Forced Labor - This form of slavery often results when individuals are lured by the promise of a good job but instead find themselves subjected to slaving conditions, working without payment and enduring physical abuse, often in harsh and hazardous conditions. Victims include domestic workers, construction workers and migrant workers.

    Wage Slavery - s most common in underdeveloped areas, where employers can afford to employ people at low wages, knowing they can't afford to risk their employment. Most child laborers can be considered to be wage slaves.

    Contract Slavery - These are generally poor and often illiterate people who have been tricked into signing contracts they do not understand and must be repaid through their labor.

    Sex Slavery - Women and children forced into prostitution are often lured by false offers of a good job and then beaten and forced to work in brothels. In other cases, victims pay tens of thousands of dollars to get to another country and are then forced into prostitution in pay off their own debts. In still others, women or children are kidnapped from their home countries. An estimated two million women and children are sold into sex slavery around the world every year.

    Debt Bondage - Bonded labor, is the most widely practiced form of slavery around the world. In Southeast Asia, where it is most prevalent, debt bondage claims an estimated 15 to 20 million victims. The staggering poverty there forces many parents to offer themselves or their own children as collateral against a loan. Though they are promised they will work only until their debt is paid off, the reality is that the debt becomes impossible to pay off. As a result, it is often inherited by the bonded laborerís children, perpetuating a vicious cycle that can claim several generations.


    All forms of slavery by definition and most require no ownership.

    Different Forms of Slavery
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You have shown definitions that it is used as a figure of speech but that has little to do with the institution of slavery. You have not presented one counter-example of something that is slavery that does not include the concept of the ownership of people.
    See post above.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Are you guys still fighting over the definition of slavery?
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