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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is not a definition. As I said the concept is not structured by one system of slavery etc. Slavery has been defined for thousands of years. Even before the concept of private ownership was thought of.

    It just does not apply or support your argument.
    What are you talking about? My link is a definition of slavery and the facts of slavery throughout the history of humanity. Did you read the article and the linked pages? It discusses slavery in Babylonia, Egypt, Greece, Africa, and the USA.

    Your dictionary definition lists linguistic uses of the word and only some of them relate to the institution of slavery.

    You are slayed.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Of course not.


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    So, it boils down to having a choice when it is convenient for your argument.
    10-4.
    That is just stupid. It does when it applies to YOUR example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You're confuring 'having a choice' with 'having choices that are palatable'.
    No. A choice that results in punishment or a loss of freedom through no direct action of your own is not the same.

    Keep dodging.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    These are not interchangable, and as such, your distintion, above, does not fly. You -always- have a choice.
    Not what I am saying.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    What are you talking about? My link is a definition of slavery and the facts of slavery throughout the history of humanity. Did you read the article and the linked pages? It discusses slavery in Babylonia, Egypt, Greece, Africa, and the USA.
    From your encyclopedia and the first paragraph of the article...

    "There is no consensus on what a slave was or on how the institution of slavery should be defined.

    End of game.

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    Last edited by Black Dog; 05-10-10 at 05:26 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    From your encyclopedia...

    "There is no consensus on what a slave was or on how the institution of slavery should be defined.

    End of game.

    Thanks for playing!
    Yes I saw that and did not try to hide it. It goes on to say:

    "Nevertheless, there is general agreement among historians, anthropologists, economists, sociologists, and others who study slavery that most of the following characteristics should be present in order to term a person a slave."

    I win in overtime!

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yes I saw that and did not try to hide it. It goes on to say:

    "Nevertheless, there is general agreement among historians, anthropologists, economists, sociologists, and others who study slavery that most of the following characteristics should be present in order to term a person a slave."

    I win in overtime!
    Why? that agrees again with my position?

    "Should be" and "are." are not the same thing.

    Blocks the shot at the last minute!!!

    PS a general agreement is not a consensus by any means.

    Again shows it is subjective!

    Touch down!!!

    We are playing Calvin Ball, right?
    Last edited by Black Dog; 05-10-10 at 05:31 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Why? that agrees again with my position?

    "Should be" and "are." are not the same thing.

    Blocks the shot at the last minute!!!
    You are playing cricket and arguing over the rules, while I am playing futball and putting it into the back of the net!

    Player red carded off the field and the penalty shot goes in!

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    You are playing cricket and arguing over the rules, while I am playing futball and putting it into the back of the net!

    Player red carded off the field and the penalty shot goes in!
    No no no! In Calvin Ball I am winning: A to 14.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    We are playing Calvin Ball, right?


    +1 for Calvin and Hobbes reference.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is just stupid. It does when it applies to YOUR example.
    All this means is that you're not applying your standard equally in all cases. This, alone, negates the soundess of your point.

    No. A choice that results in punishment or a loss of freedom through no direct action of your own is not the same.
    Choices are choices, regardless if you like the potential outcomes.
    If, as you argue, having a choice means you are not a slave, then slavery does not exist.

    You can disagree all you like - it makes it no less true.

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    Re: Is slavery a matter of perspective?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    All this means is that you're not applying your standard equally in all cases. This, alone, negates the soundess of your point.
    Since when does applying something evenly equate soundless points? In Goobie land?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Choices are choices, regardless if you like the potential outcomes.
    Has literaly nothing to do with my point. Or yours for that matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If, as you argue, having a choice means you are not a slave, then slavery does not exist.
    Again absolutely irrelevant to my argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can disagree all you like - it makes it no less true.
    In this case it does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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