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  • Yes, it was bad for America

    48 41.03%
  • No, it was good for America

    51 43.59%
  • A little bad and a little good. Overall it was neutral

    4 3.42%
  • A little bad and a little good. It changed a lot but not one way or the other.

    10 8.55%
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    6 5.13%
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I'll take on the most emotionally charged portion of your post, Cat. It represents the good and the bad of feminism.

    The good is that you are able to be financially independent and get out of a bad marriage and raise your kids on your own.

    The bad is several fold.

    First, you had to raise your kids on their own without a male role model and a family role model (at least you haven't mentioned one). Statistics show that your kids are more likely to divorce themselves, perpetuating the destruction of traditional families.

    Secondly, your being an independent minded feminist may have contributed to the outcome of your marriage. If your husband was not able to deal with your non-traditional outlook, he may have become an abusive prick and stuck his dick in other women. These things do tend to take two to tango.

    Thirdly, the combination of financial independence and non-traditional roles by women have disrupted the traditional family. Divorce for much lessor reasons than yours occurs regularly. People get tired of each other and when marriage is no longer fun and games and the real work starts, people have an easier time of ignoring their vows and quitting on each other. This destabilizes a foundation stone in our society. Secondary effects of single parent families are stark.

    Lastly, the instability of the family causes women to have children out of wedlock. This perpetuates the problems.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The whole engagement ring ritual is sexist as all hell. It implies that women are materialistic AND it forces a man to symbolically bribe (with the ring) and beg (by getting on one knee) for his mates affection.

    I absolutely despise the ritual on all fronts.
    I don't see it that way at all. I picked out the ring for my wife as a show of devotion and love. It is not gaudy and the wedding band was simple.

    It is not a bribe for me. It is a material manifestation of my deep love and commitment to my wonderful wife.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't see it that way at all. I picked out the ring for my wife as a show of devotion and love. It is not gaudy and the wedding band was simple.

    It is not a bribe for me. It is a material manifestation of my deep love and commitment to my wonderful wife.

    If one looks at it objectively, the bribing and begging symbolism is far more obvious than the deep love and commitment symbolism. The deep love and commitment aspect is why we are willing to symbolically bribe and beg for their affection, IMO.

    That fact is why the obvious symbolism of the act is ignored in favor of the contrived symbolism, IMO.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The whole engagement ring ritual is sexist as all hell. It implies that women are materialistic AND it forces a man to symbolically bribe (with the ring) and beg (by getting on one knee) for his mates affection.

    I absolutely despise the ritual on all fronts.
    Ditto. Not only that, it signifies ownership of the woman.

    I have thus far failed to figure out the necessity of said ring if not for the above reason.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Ditto. Not only that, it signifies ownership of the woman.

    I have thus far failed to figure out the necessity of said ring if not for the above reason.
    I have no problems with exchanging rings between the couple. But even the term "husband" implies that we are animals in need of an owner.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The whole engagement ring ritual is sexist as all hell. It implies that women are materialistic AND it forces a man to symbolically bribe (with the ring) and beg (by getting on one knee) for his mates affection.

    I absolutely despise the ritual on all fronts.
    I don't believe you. All men beg for their pussy.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I don't believe you. All men beg for their pussy.
    No, they just tell you that so you don't feel bad.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Any time you make something softer, you also make it weaker. Wimen know if they weaken Men, they will be easier to control.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Ditto. Not only that, it signifies ownership of the woman.
    Agreed.


    Ironically, in order to show my love and affection to my wife, I overlooked my own distaste for the ritual (which she was and is well aware of) and still engaged in it (no pun intended) when I asked her to marry me.

    What was cool about it, and one of the reasons I truly love my wife, is that she "reciprocated" the act a few weeks later asking me to marry her and her "bribe" was a hi-def big screen TV (something she knew I wouldn't buy for myself but wanted) which she had delivered while I was at work. I walked in and she was down on one knee (begging) with the remote in her hand (bribing).

    To her, my will to conform to the conventions I despise was a sign of my love for her, and for me, her will to break from convention and do something somewhat novel was a sign of her love for me.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Any time you make something softer, you also make it weaker. Wimen know if they weaken Men, they will be easier to control.
    Men have always been pretty easy to control as it is, dude. Weakening them only removes the challenge.

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