View Poll Results: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

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  • Yes, it was bad for America

    48 41.03%
  • No, it was good for America

    51 43.59%
  • A little bad and a little good. Overall it was neutral

    4 3.42%
  • A little bad and a little good. It changed a lot but not one way or the other.

    10 8.55%
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    6 5.13%
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    That said, you're male, and so that's a little like a white person claiming that the best way to deal with the issue of slavery and Jim Crow laws is just to take a comical view of it, and that blacks really ought to quit being such goddamned buzzkills and develop a sense of humor already.

    Or like a gentile joking about the holocaust and being unable to understand why Jews have to be so danged serious about everything all the frickin' time. Etc, etc.

    We need to understand that these are still sensitive issues to many people, especially older people who actually lived through these dark times.
    Oh...and wait...I dont mean to get all spun up here...but thats pretty much BULL****. As a 'male' I have worked 2 and 3 jobs to provide for my family and change things for my family my whole life. I had to pay for school without the special compensations and opportunites. I had to endure appeasement acts in the military watching incompetent womena nd minorities get promoted in the name of social justice. Want to see appeasement acts in operation? Look at every soldier of the year banquet. Does it fix the disparity? No...but it allows people to say...look at us...we arent racist or sexist biased. Meanwhile no real change occurs at senior and management levels. The mid to lower income white male didnt create the problem...we just have deal with both the continuance of the problem and the socital politically correct attempts to correct the problem.

    I wasnt born into what anyone might call an intact family. Ive had to deal with my **** the same as any and everyone else. I grew up in the south...Ive seen both sides...believe me...and try fitting in when you are mixed race and lower income growing up in the south of the 60's and 70's.

    Sorry...Im REALLY fine and very comfortable with what I have done with my life. Im just a little pissed that when they were handing out those magical mythical silver spoons to all white (or mostly white) males that came with apparently a fast track to education and financial success that somehow I must have been out sick that day...

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    But I doubt you can be empathetic enough to know how someone who had leprosy 40 years ago, has since been cured, but still bears hidden scars, feels upon hearing leprosy jokes and being told to go buy a sense of humor.
    Even I'm not empathetic enough to know that.
    Sometimes it's better to play it safe.
    See my next post...

    Maybe...JUST maybe...those people need to stop...take a few deep breaths...and actually assess their situation. SOMETIMES life sucks. SOMETIMES we make it worse for ourselves. SOMETIMES we feel sorry for ourselves and follow people and ideals that make it worse for ourselves.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh...and wait...I dont mean to get all spun up here...but thats pretty much BULL****. As a 'male' I have worked 2 and 3 jobs to provide for my family and change things for my family my whole life. I had to pay for school without the special compensations and opportunites. I had to endure appeasement acts in the military watching incompetent womena nd minorities get promoted in the name of social justice. Want to see appeasement acts in operation? Look at every soldier of the year banquet. Does it fix the disparity? No...but it allows people to say...look at us...we arent racist or sexist biased. Meanwhile no real change occurs at senior and management levels. The mid to lower income white male didnt create the problem...we just have deal with both the continuance of the problem and the socital politically correct attempts to correct the problem.

    I wasnt born into what anyone might call an intact family. Ive had to deal with my **** the same as any and everyone else. I grew up in the south...Ive seen both sides...believe me...and try fitting in when you are mixed race and lower income growing up in the south of the 60's and 70's.

    Sorry...Im REALLY fine and very comfortable with what I have done with my life. Im just a little pissed that when they were handing out those magical mythical silver spoons to all white (or mostly white) males that came with apparently a fast track to education and financial success that somehow I must have been out sick that day...
    In other words, you're sexist and damn proud of it.
    You feel justified in and entitled to your sexism.
    That's fine.
    Let's not beat around the bush, though, shall we?
    Let's call it what it is.


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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    In other words, you're sexist and damn proud of it.
    You feel justified in and entitled to your sexism.
    That's fine.
    Let's not beat around the bush, though, shall we?
    Let's call it what it is.

    THATS what you got out of that?

    Good lord...how sad...you MIGHT want to get help...

    Name one thing that is sexist.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    THATS what you got out of that?

    Good lord...how sad...you MIGHT want to get help...
    White males who claim to be socially oppressed and make statements such as "I had to endure appeasement acts in the military watching incompetent womena nd minorities get promoted in the name of social justice" are sexist, and their opinions are to be summarily dismissed. While your words might have value to someone, they do not merit further consideration or response from me.
    The end.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    In other words, you're sexist and damn proud of it.
    You feel justified in and entitled to your sexism.
    That's fine.
    Let's not beat around the bush, though, shall we?
    Let's call it what it is.

    I have to tell you...YOUR baggage and assumptions are comical. You dont know **** about me. And Im frankly really not invested in 'splainin my past to you for several reasons. Its just comical that you think Im sexist. WAY ****ing comical.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    White males who claim to be socially oppressed and make statements such as "I had to endure appeasement acts in the military watching incompetent womena nd minorities get promoted in the name of social justice" are sexist, and to be summarily dismissed. While your words might have value to someone, they do not merit further consideration or response from me.
    The end.
    Agree.

    Also to just comment on whoever made this thread, really? Would you question if the civil rights movement was good for America? Of course feminism was good for America, equal rights are always a good thing.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    White males who claim to be socially oppressed and make statements such as "I had to endure appeasement acts in the military watching incompetent womena nd minorities get promoted in the name of social justice" are sexist, and to be summarily dismissed. While your words might have value to someone, they do not merit further consideration or response from me.
    The end.
    You DID get the part where I said Im not whining or complaining...but that sometimes idiots cant see oppression beyond the end of the tip of their nose...right?

    No...I shouldnt think anyone that is so deeply wrapped up in her own **** might be able to see merit in other peoples perspectives. You might want to grab a straw...a LONG one.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    White males who claim to be socially oppressed and make statements such as "I had to endure appeasement acts in the military watching incompetent womena nd minorities get promoted in the name of social justice" are sexist, and their opinions are to be summarily dismissed. While your words might have value to someone, they do not merit further consideration or response from me.
    The end.
    You think incompetent people should be promoted on the basis of their gender?

    The only sexist person here is you...

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    You think incompetent people should be promoted on the basis of their gender?

    The only sexist person here is you...
    That is a circular reasoning fallacy.
    A white male claims to be socially oppressed because, he claims, less qualified blacks and females are being promoted over him simply by virtue of being black and female.
    I tell him that his attitude and belief system is, in my opinion, sexist, and merits no further response from me, although it might well be valuable to some people (for instance, you).

    You come by and claim that I just stated that even though they're inferior, blacks and females should be promoted over (apparently inherently superior, in your opinion) white males, because they're black and female, and that because I believe this, I'm sexist.

    You're not really smart enough to effectively do what you're trying to do here.
    You shouldn't waste your time.
    Spin is an art form, better left to your intellectual superiors.
    Last edited by 1069; 05-15-10 at 02:02 PM.

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