Who's castle is that?
WOMAN: King of the who?
ARTHUR: The Britons.
WOMAN: Who are the Britons?
ARTHUR: Well, we all are. we're all Britons and I am your king.
WOMAN: I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous
DENNIS: You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship.
A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes--
WOMAN: Oh there you go, bringing class into it again.
DENNIS: That's what it's all about if only people would--
ARTHUR: Please, please good people. I am in haste. Who lives
in that castle?
WOMAN: No one live there.
ARTHUR: Then who is your lord?
WOMAN: We don't have a lord.
DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take
it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.
DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified
at a special biweekly meeting.
ARTHUR: Yes, I see.
DENNIS: By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs,--
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: --but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more--
ARTHUR: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
WOMAN: Order, eh -- who does he think he is?
ARTHUR: I am your king!
WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
ARTHUR: You don't vote for kings.
WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then?
ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake,
her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur
from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I,
Arthur, was to carry Excalibur.
That is why I am your king!
DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power
derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical
ARTHUR: Be quiet!
DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power
just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an empereror just
because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd
put me away!
ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!
DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.
ARTHUR: Shut up!
DENNIS: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!
EDIT: Even better:
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI"]YouTube- Monty Python and the Holy Grail[/nomedia]
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You can't clit around all day talking about this stuff without some espresso and getting a little sugar.
These bad puns are nuts.
Tucker Case - Tard magnet.
You know, I couldn't help but think this:
It seems acceptable debate material to actually ask "Overall, was feminism bad for America?" - no one is really pissed that this was proposed and heavily debated.
But what if the kin were asked: "Overall, was the emancipation of slaves bad for America?" - people would not take it too well and a sound debate would not be had.
In essence slavery and pre-women's lib era beliefs and values were the same: catagorizing someone based on a natural born fact (woman/black), forcing this person to submit to a lifestyle that was unwanted (not for everyone, but for most) and treating the person differently/lesser than the average white male.
In these ways - though the directive and plights much different - it is similar.
However, the slaves were emancipated in the late 1800's - given the right to vote much later. So - why doesn't anyone try to connect lines from the emancipation to a lot of problems that have been penned to feminism in some fashion? (like the economical impacts and so forth).
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A screaming comes across the sky.
It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow
But it doesn't do any good to say what I really think about it.
Years ago, there was a series of threads started by Bodhisattva, castigating women's liberation and blaming it for all sorts of social ills, and espousing the notion that society would be better if all women left the work force, stayed home, kept house for their husbands, and raised a bunch of children.
I was banned from each of those threads (and each eventually ended up locked and archived).
Of course I find it outrageous, but I am one of those members who is rapidly silenced and removed when I allow my outrage to show.
It's too much, I suppose. Too disruptive.
At the time those threads were going on, there were a number of housewives on the forum; one was a moderator. Most have since been banned.
The threads degenerated into The Mommy Wars*, while a few misogynistic males sat by nodding approvingly, pleased with the chaos they had wrought.
There is no better way to oppress a group of people than to divide them, turn them against one another, and cause them to fall into fighting among themselves.
Meanwhile, the real enemy- patriarchy and male privilege- smirks while slinking off stage left, content that the status quo has and will continue to be maintained.
(The Mommy Wars:
"Daycare is child abuse! Women who selfishly put their careers ahead of their families by working outside the home don't love their children and never should've had them. Their children will grow up to be serial killers and crack fiends."
"Housewifes are fat-arsed lazy pigs little better than prostitutes, who contribute nothing to society and lay around on the couch eating Twinkies and watching soap operas all day. They're an embarrassment to women. Their children will grow up to need lifelong therapy.")
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Women's liberation is something to be proud of. Extending the vote and enabling the economic prospects have been positive developments in our history.
However, this has dramatically changed families in America. The typical family of today is very different than the typical family of the 1950s. Women work and so you have 2 earner households. There is also an increase in single parent families (mixed: pos - out of bad marriages, neg - missing role models for children). Other changes have occurred as well, which may or may not be due to women's liberation: increased education (positive - for men and women), increased urbanization (mixed), increased drug use (mixed), increased crime (negative), surely others I am missing. I don't know how much can be laid at the feet of women's liberation but surely some of it is related.
I am glad we could discuss it.