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  • Yes, it was bad for America

    48 41.03%
  • No, it was good for America

    51 43.59%
  • A little bad and a little good. Overall it was neutral

    4 3.42%
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Some women are genetically predisposed to be more stereotypically male in their personalities, and that's perfectly normal--FOR THOSE WOMEN.
    True. That is normal for me too. When I participate on internet forums, and do not blantantly advertise that I am a woman, I am often mistaken for a man. Very often. It is, no doubt, in my personality.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    False. Chimps are vastly different to humans genetically. That 99% similar thing was based on flawed analysis (not based on chromosomal/gene analysis).
    No, humans really do have 99% of genes in common with chimps, just as we have 75% of genes in common with nematode worms (most DNA is junk). However, there is evidence that the difference in DNA between human men and women is equal to or even greater than that of a male human and chimpanzee.

    Took a while to retrieve the study, but:

    Y Chromosome Depends on Itself to Survive - NYTimes.com
    As often noted, the genomes of humans and chimpanzees are 98.5 percent identical, when each of their three billion DNA units are compared. But what of men and women, who have different chromosomes?

    Until now, biologists have said that makes no difference, because there are almost no genes on the Y, and in women one of the two X chromosomes is inactivated, so that both men and women have one working X chromosome.

    But researchers have recently found that several hundred genes on the X escape inactivation. Taking those genes into account along with the new tally of Y genes gives this result: Men and women differ by 1 to 2 percent of their genomes, Dr. Page said, which is the same as the difference between a man and a male chimpanzee or between a woman and a female chimpanzee.

    Almost all male-female differences, whether in cognition, behavior, anatomy or susceptibility to disease, have usually been attributed to the sex hormones. But given the genomic differences that are now apparent, that premise has to be re-examined, in Dr. Page's view.

    ''We all recite the mantra that we are 99 percent identical and take political comfort in it,'' Dr. Page said. ''But the reality is that the genetic difference between males and females absolutely dwarfs all other differences in the human genome.''
    Found here, which goes into the subject further: The pseudo-feminist show trial of Larry Summers. - By William Saletan - Slate Magazine

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    We (women) are similar to men in that we have the same physical characteristics, except for sexual characteristics. These differences are what is responsible for our very existence. To me, that's a pretty big deal.
    About 20% of women have high testosterone levels that make it normal for them to be assertive, aggressive, dominant and risk-taking. Similarly, about 20% of men have low testosterone levels that correlate to having stereotypically feminine traits.

    These hormones, more than our genitalia, control our behavior and our internal identities.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    No, humans really do have 99% of genes in common with chimps, just as we have 75% of genes in common with nematode worms (most DNA is junk). However, there is evidence that the difference in DNA between human men and women is equal to or even greater than that of a male human and chimpanzee.
    Interestingly enough, men with high levels of testosterone do better in math/science than men who don't have these high levels.

    http://www.livescience.com/health/07...nger_sats.html

    This explains why so many scientists are also bald and hairy.*
















    *In all seriousness, high levels of testosterone are linked to male pattern baldness and high amounts of body hair.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    My ring finger is longer than my index finger
    I suspected. You have a preference for physically challenging work and you are naturally assertive.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    These hormones, more than our genitalia, control our behavior and our internal identities.
    It's not the genitalia at all that control behavior. They are secondary characteristics. Iow, it's not my sexual characteristics which make me interested in men or want to have children. It's my estrogen, progesterone, small amount of testosterone, and other endocrine system hormone output.

    Speaking of agression and hormone levels, have you ever watched a mother cat defend her young from a tom cat? She is highly agressive and vicious in protecting her young. Is it her testosterone levels, or her female hormones and the effects they have on her behavior? She will readily kill to defend her young, because she instinctively knows he will kill her babies. This is a good behavioral trait imo.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    We are legally equal to men, and more similar than those who want to reinforce sex differences will ever admit.
    I don't give a crap about reinforcing anything.


    For goodness sake, I'll never get why today's feminists get so worked up when someone points out that men and women are different. Women, you are better than us. Men are disgusting, nasty, self-obsessed, simple-minded, and that's just the tip of it. Which gender makes up the vast majority of the prison population? Do you really expect me to believe that that is caused by social pressure? How often do you hear about "husband abuse"? Women should be embracing their differences, not pretending they don't exist. I have no incentive to believe in such things if they were not really there.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    No, humans really do have 99% of genes in common with chimps, just as we have 75% of genes in common with nematode worms (most DNA is junk). However, there is evidence that the difference in DNA between human men and women is equal to or even greater than that of a male human and chimpanzee.
    Those words in bold is where you make your mistake. It's not that our genes are 97-99% similar, it's our genomes that are 97-99% similar.

    Those differences in genome, however, are actually spread across about 65% of our genes. Meaning we are only about 35% similar to chimps.

    Not only that, but we have two fewer chromosomes and very different genomic alignments.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    *In all seriousness, high levels of testosterone are linked to male pattern baldness and high amounts of body hair.
    This explains a lot. Except apparently I'm an anomaly, since I do well in math and science... eh, my body is whacked out anyways. In many ways I'm more feminine than masculine, but in many ways not.

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