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  • Yes, it was bad for America

    48 41.03%
  • No, it was good for America

    51 43.59%
  • A little bad and a little good. Overall it was neutral

    4 3.42%
  • A little bad and a little good. It changed a lot but not one way or the other.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    One note of contention here.
    Women, in general, make decisions more on the basis of short term safety and security than men do.
    Men do make use a similar decision making process but it is, usually, based on long term safety and security choices.
    I disagree. I think that what you've described is a function of personality type, as well.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I disagree. I think that what you've described is a function of personality type, as well.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I disagree. I think that what you've described is a function of personality type, as well.
    I know but looking at the bigger picture, you can see this based on jobs women and men take.
    Men being more long term will take jobs with risk based salaries in order to capture higher long term positive gains.
    Women, on the other hand, tend to choose jobs with lower pay but steady employment.

    Neither is wrong and there are exceptions but I think that illustrates the general women/men difference in thought.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    One note of contention here.
    Women, in general, make decisions more on the basis of short term safety and security than men do.
    Men do make use a similar decision making process but it is, usually, based on long term safety and security choices.
    I don't really understand this at all. Can you give an example of what you mean?

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I don't really understand this at all. Can you give an example of what you mean?
    Women, in general, make choices based on now, instead of potential future.
    In general, women are more risk averse.

    For example, women are more likely to want a Social Security type retirement system, even though the rate of return is low, because it is a guaranteed payment system.

    While men would take private investment over it because of the potential for higher, long term results.

    You can see this with participation rates in investing.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Women, in general, make choices based on now, instead of potential future.
    In general, women are more risk averse.

    For example, women are more likely to want a Social Security type retirement system, even though the rate of return is low, because it is a guaranteed payment system.

    While men would take private investment over it because of the potential for higher, long term results.

    You can see this with participation rates in investing.
    I think it has more to do with personality, education, and relationship status combined with whether or not children are involved.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I think it has more to do with personality, education, and relationship status combined with whether or not children are involved.
    It's holdover programing from the hunter gatherer humans.

    It is what it is, there is nothing necessarily wrong with either.
    It is why I don't buy this women and men are equal nonsense.
    We are made different by nature.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's holdover programing from the hunter gatherer humans.

    It is what it is, there is nothing necessarily wrong with either.
    It is why I don't buy this women and men are equal nonsense.
    We are made different by nature.
    No two people are equal, regardless of gender. It's preposterous to say they are. Except in the eyes of our government, which is what most people are referring to when they speak of equality.

    Men and women should have equal opportunity and choices. That is what is meant by equality.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No two people are equal, regardless of gender. It's preposterous to say they are. Except in the eyes of our government, which is what most people are referring to when they speak of equality.

    Men and women should have equal opportunity and choices. That is what is meant by equality.
    I agree with that but you and I both know that idea is perverted to mean equality of outcome.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I agree with that but you and I both know that idea is perverted to mean equality of outcome.
    You know what...screw that noise. I've heard this b.s. about "men and women are different" for my entire life. Guess what? Men and men are different. Women and women are different.

    My personality type is ENFP. Only 3% of the world's population type is the same as mine. I have about 136% more in common witha male ENFP than I do with a woman of another personality type.

    I'm really sick of how people use their engrained prejudices, on both sides, about male/female roles to justify stupidity.

    We're all different. Judging people on the basis of gender, and believing that you can draw any meaningful conclusions about their personalities or psychologies is stupid.

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