View Poll Results: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

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  • Yes, it was bad for America

    48 41.03%
  • No, it was good for America

    51 43.59%
  • A little bad and a little good. Overall it was neutral

    4 3.42%
  • A little bad and a little good. It changed a lot but not one way or the other.

    10 8.55%
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    6 5.13%
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Question marks indicate a question, not a statement.
    *edit to restate*

    Then why'd you choose "Yes, it was bad for America" in the poll if you're unsure or if you were on the fence?

    Obviously you believe it was bad for America and are backpedaling on being called on it.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    I'd say sexism has been bad for America, and all other countries. It is afterall what caused the need for feminism, and ultimately the crisis many are going through these days. The after shocks of oppression don't instantly go away with the installation of protective legislation.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    *edit to restate*

    Then why'd you choose "Yes, it was bad for America" in the poll if you're unsure or if you were on the fence?

    Obviously you believe it was bad for America and are backpedaling on being called on it.
    *face palm*

    Because my initial thought was that it may be bad for America and then I went on to discuss it. Never mind, it's not like you've made any sense in this thread so far so why stop now.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    *face palm*

    Because my initial thought was that it may be bad for America and then I went on to discuss it. Never mind, it's not like you've made any sense in this thread so far so why stop now.
    I've made perfect sense - to the point that some of your statements seemed to mirror my statements. . . thus confusing me on your actual stance.

    Sometimes it's hard to tell when someone's really changing their mind on an issue and when they're not.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    What are those many social changes and what time period are you referring to?
    They were in my post, directly above your response.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    They were in my post, directly above your response.
    you mean

    You blame all of these things on feminism, when in reality, many social changes occurred over the time time period that played a role. Major economic changes, a shift from a blue collar economy to an information/technology economy, and no-fault divorce laws.
    What time period are you referring to.

    What were the major economic changes that occurred during that time (whatever that time is).
    The info/tech economy didn't hit until 1997. Did you mean that you think our society has been in decline only since 1997?

    No fault divorce laws have had an impact but the evidence I've seen so far concludes correlation and not causation. For instance, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida and Georgia have the most relaxed divorce laws and have the highest divorce rates in the country, is that because of "no fault" divorce or do people simply get divorced without being asked for the cause? Just because you get a divorce and don't tell the state that your husband beats you doesn't mean he didn't.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Wimen do things out of emotion. "save the snails, the poor dears." Guys, on the other hand, get the job done, and say "screw the snails", if they are in the way.
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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Wimen do things out of emotion. "save the snails, the poor dears." Guys, on the other hand, get the job done, and say "screw the snails", if they are in the way.
    Cause we'll screw anything!

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Those who say the feminists have nothing to do with the worlds economic problems etc are right. Despite increasing womens rights, women have not yet had enough influence to create problems on this scale.



    So, we have a number of critics demanding that feminists justify and explain the validity of their methods. As Roosavelt put it ''it is not the citics who count...'' . So, the conclusion stands that the feminists, like everything else are not perfect, but there is no doubt that they have been effective, when we consider the advances in the womens rights situation in many countries. Critics should maybe put some of their energy into suggesting effective methods to move even further forward with the womens rights situation, or put a shoulder against the situation themselves by activating for womens rights. Assuming you agree that women should have rights that is.



    The knuckle draggers who don't agree that women should have rights are simply born on the wrong side of history. I don't suppose you will do the favour of piping down though...



    Yes, there are women who are also against the feminists, who they believe have ruined the romance that men would have showered on them, if it wasnt for the feminists... Well, there were always a majority of women who hide under the kitchen table, while others stand up for their rights, and then come out to accept those rights once those rights become normal. Not many women in the western world would step back to the types of rights they would have been entitled to, 200 years ago.

    Why? : In some times and places it has been/is dangerous for repressed groups to stand up for their righs, and sometimes these women have childrens welfare as well at their own to condider. This is the same for all oppressed groups, and not just women.

    In other cases, it is safe to stand up for their rights, but they can get a lot of mileage out of martyrdom, when they can blame either men or the feminists who they believe to be putting upon them. It is a weak position to take, but it is a sure and instant winner, because the simple goal of getting attention and sympathy for their plight is easy.

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    Re: Overall, was feminism bad for America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Wimen do things out of emotion. "save the snails, the poor dears." Guys, on the other hand, get the job done, and say "screw the snails", if they are in the way.
    For those who have not got my 10 years of gender phschology reading behind them, there is no gender link to how emotional an individual is.

    It is about time that certain people stopped talking crap. These types of threads tend to have pages of it.

    Here is the real deal as far as gender and emotions is concerned. Further reseach is advisable, as the below is just a very brief summary.
    There is no gender link to how emotional an individual is. The gender difference is in how women and men process emotions. Since, power systems are out of balance in favour of men, it would be wise for women who want to get ahead to be aware of this, because the ways in which they process their emotions will be greatly misunderstood in the work place by male managers.

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