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    Mosque near WTC moves forward

    A $100 million dollar glass mosque called the "Cordoba House" is being built approximately 2 blocks away from ground zero. The purpose, according to Imam Feisel Abdul Rauf, is to "...foster better relations between the West and Muslims." Costs are being handled by groups such as the Ford Foundation and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, which would pay for the construction.

    Not everyone is on board though...

    Quote Originally Posted by NY Daily News
    But some 9/11 families said they found the proposal offensive because the terrorists who launched the attacks were Muslim.

    "I realize it's not all of them, but I don't want to have to go down to a memorial where my son died on 9/11 and look at a mosque," said retired FDNY Deputy Chief Jim Riches - whose son Jim, a firefighter, was killed on 9/11.

    "If you ask me, it's a religion of hate," said Riches, who did not attend last night's meeting.

    Rosemary Cain of Massapequa, L.I., whose son, Firefighter George Cain, 35, was killed in the 2001 attacks, called the project a "slap in the face."

    "I think it's despicable. That's sacred ground," said Cain, who also did not attend the meeting.

    "How could anybody give them permission to build a mosque there? It tarnishes the area."

    So weigh in -- is this all OK due to the stated intent, or is it NOT okay and this type of outreach building should be built somewhere not so close to the site of 9/11?





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    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    I think that, at a minimum, it is kind of tasteless and probably not too bright either.

    It's almost like building a shrine to Emperor Hirohito at Pearl Harbor.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    I think that, at a minimum, it is kind of tasteless and probably not too bright either.

    It's almost like building a shrine to Emperor Hirohito at Pearl Harbor.
    Except Hirohito was directly responsible for pearl harbor, and the Muslims in NY city are regular American citizens who might have lost people in the attack. There is no reason to coddle fools who are too stupid or bigoted to realize that a single act of terrorism does not define an entire religion.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    I have no problem with this. Nothing illegal about it even if it is tasteless.

    The terrorists who did it were Muslim, but this should not reflect on all Muslims.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    build a giant ham sandwich next to it.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
    build a giant ham sandwich next to it.
    This is funny and very poignant all at once reflecting the very one sidedness of Islam. I'm sure the mosque would not be amused - just as the 9/11 victims families are not amused.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Except Hirohito was directly responsible for pearl harbor, and the Muslims in NY city are regular American citizens who might have lost people in the attack. There is no reason to coddle fools who are too stupid or bigoted to realize that a single act of terrorism does not define an entire religion.

    And yet, there is no getting around the fact that the 9/11 hijackers were Muslims motivated by Jihad. I get a little baffled sometimes by people who don't seem to want to recognize that little fact, or the undeniable truth that Islam seems to produce an aweful lot of terrorists. How many of the most recent 100 suicide bombers were Muslim? Is the number 99 or 100? Has any other religion produced 100 suicide bombers in the past decade... or even 10?

    (Emperor Hirohito, BTW, was actually not directly responsible for Pearl Harbor... he was little more than a figurehead to the ruling Genru until he did the unthinkable in 1945 and addressed the Japanese people directly, calling on them to surrender. )

    Ever lost a loved one to murder? It is very hard not to hate the perpetrators and anyone associated with them. I think this is at least arguably, a bit insensitive to the families of the 9/11 victims.

    Doesn't anyone else find it just a smidge odd, that WE are supposed to be uber-sensitive to the needs, wants, feelings and sensibilities of EVERYONE else, yet nobody seems to give a good flying **** if something might offend US?

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Except Hirohito was directly responsible for pearl harbor, and the Muslims in NY city are regular American citizens who might have lost people in the attack. There is no reason to coddle fools who are too stupid or bigoted to realize that a single act of terrorism does not define an entire religion.
    It sure as hell sums it up pretty well. What exactly separates the violent teachings of Islam from the violent teachings of any other crazy ideology? Is it because it is older or is it because they say it comes from some imaginary man in the sky? Theists seem to think that if they put the god label on their bat**** crazy belief system that it somehow makes it less bat**** crazy when in actuality it makes it even more bat**** crazy. I see absolutely no difference between this and putting a confederate flag monument next to where Martin Luther King was shot or a Swastika monument next to Aushwitz.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    But some 9/11 families said they found the proposal offensive because the terrorists who launched the attacks were Muslim.
    They were also males.

    "I realize it's not all of them, but I don't want to have to go down to a memorial where my son died on 9/11 and look at a mosque," said retired FDNY Deputy Chief Jim Riches - whose son Jim, a firefighter, was killed on 9/11.
    Then dont.

    "If you ask me, it's a religion of hate," said Riches, who did not attend last night's meeting.
    Get a new ****ing slogan

    "I think it's despicable. That's sacred ground," said Cain, who also did not attend the meeting.

    "How could anybody give them permission to build a mosque there? It tarnishes the area."
    Sweet, let's park a Starbucks there and call it a day.

    I mean seriously? There's a ****ing Burger King AT ground zero and THIS is somehow a slap in the face?
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Its fine with me, its perfectly legal and this is a free society. And that freedom does NOT mean freedom from anything. You have no freedom to not be offended by anyone.

    Whether its a mosque near 9/11 or students wearing American flags being kicked out of school, no one has the right to stop someone from exercising their 1st Amendment or any other rights simply because they don't like what they are saying.

    Also I hope I don't see anyone who was complaining those students who were wearing those American flags being kicked out of school for offending hispanic students, also complaining that they shouldnt be building this mosque because it offends you.
    Last edited by Wiseone; 05-08-10 at 07:12 AM.

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