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Thread: Mosque near WTC moves forward

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post

    Judging people in past time periods by our own modern standards of behavior is about the dumbest thing you can do with regards to history.

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    Even less intelligent are those who are so clueless as to how events from the past shape attitudes of today.

    I have even heard of people so ignorant of Islam that they don't realize Mohammad is held up as an example by a good number who pattern their own present day attitudes upon his life.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I mean, for ****'s sake. This is America, and in America we have the right to freedom of religion. Which means they can put a mosque anywhere they can buy land and afford to put a mosque up. It's called freedom, you're gonna have to learn to deal with it at some point.
    QFT. Do you REALLY want government deciding which religions are approved for public consumption? Because, if we're casting votes, I'd like to start with banning the evangelicals because so many of their followers are so damn stupid.

    Since you started the ball rolling and all, Sgt. Rock.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Because, if we're casting votes, I'd like to start with banning the evangelicals because so many of their followers are so damn stupid.

    Since you started the ball rolling and all, Sgt. Rock.
    No doubt. I live in Colorado...home of the f'n megachurch. I hate those places. Try to go by them when service is getting out and you're screwed. They get the cops to come out and direct traffic and all that other crap, impede my motion. I say they shouldn't get traffic control. They built a huge ass building to house more people than necessary in a place which didn't have the roads or lights to do it. That sounds like their problem. But then they take more of my tax money and use the cops to stop other, non-jackass traffic so those jerks can get out of their megachurch parking lot.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I am not supporting Jehovas witnesses or Scientologists here. I am commenting on Mainstream Islam.

    You know very well you have just offered a du toque argument that does not address the issue at all. If my dog bites you, my pointing out that a neighbor's dog also bites does not let me off the hook for your injury.
    What about explaining what American Evangelicals were doing supporting a Ugandan bill that called for the death penalty for gays?

    Are they radicals, too?

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No doubt. I live in Colorado...home of the f'n megachurch. I hate those places. Try to go by them when service is getting out and you're screwed. They get the cops to come out and direct traffic and all that other crap, impede my motion. I say they shouldn't get traffic control. They built a huge ass building to house more people than necessary in a place which didn't have the roads or lights to do it. That sounds like their problem. But then they take more of my tax money and use the cops to stop other, non-jackass traffic so those jerks can get out of their megachurch parking lot.
    This is my feeling, EXACTLY. We have two of them near my house, and they each tie up 2 officers on Sunday. They consume services, they require infrastructure, and frankly, our police officers have more important work to do than making sure that their participants can cut into traffic faster.

    They should all pay taxes.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is my feeling, EXACTLY. We have two of them near my house, and they each tie up 2 officers on Sunday. They consume services, they require infrastructure, and frankly, our police officers have more important work to do than making sure that their participants can cut into traffic faster.

    They should all pay taxes.
    I agree with some of that even being a Christian. If they need police to direct traffic they should pay something if it's an every week thing.

    I disagree on taxes because it would entangle government with religious institutions. I want to keep them as far away from each other as possible.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Whatever he did, I'll bet dollars to donuts he wouldn't go home, get on an internet political board, and make idiotic, devoid of anything remotely intellectual hyperbole statements about Jesus.

    I mean, for ****'s sake. This is America, and in America we have the right to freedom of religion. Which means they can put a mosque anywhere they can buy land and afford to put a mosque up. It's called freedom, you're gonna have to learn to deal with it at some point.
    I agree, this is America and in America we have the right to freedom of religion. And I also agree that they can build there mosque. But the first amendment to our constitution which guarantees the free exercise of religion also protects our right to freedom of speech. And I have a right to voice my disaproval of the building of this mosque as well as my belief that Islam is evil and that the so called prophet Mohammed was evil as well. I base my conclussion that Islam and the pedophile prophet are evil on years of research and study. I have been consistant on this since I joined this forum, ask CC he can vouch for me on that.

    Ikari, its called freedom of speech and your gonna have to learn to deal with it at some point.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No doubt. I live in Colorado...home of the f'n megachurch. I hate those places. Try to go by them when service is getting out and you're screwed. They get the cops to come out and direct traffic and all that other crap, impede my motion. I say they shouldn't get traffic control. They built a huge ass building to house more people than necessary in a place which didn't have the roads or lights to do it. That sounds like their problem. But then they take more of my tax money and use the cops to stop other, non-jackass traffic so those jerks can get out of their megachurch parking lot.
    So you hate those jerks huh, is that also hate speech? I mean there you are saying you hate.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    QFT. Do you REALLY want government deciding which religions are approved for public consumption? Because, if we're casting votes, I'd like to start with banning the evangelicals because so many of their followers are so damn stupid.

    Since you started the ball rolling and all, Sgt. Rock.
    So you want to ban evangelicals because thay are so damn stupid, is that hate speech? Personally I do not think it is. You have a right to your opinion about them, this is America afterall.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I agree, this is America and in America we have the right to freedom of religion. And I also agree that they can build there mosque. But the first amendment to our constitution which guarantees the free exercise of religion also protects our right to freedom of speech. And I have a right to voice my disaproval of the building of this mosque as well as my belief that Islam is evil and that the so called prophet Mohammed was evil as well. I base my conclussion that Islam and the pedophile prophet are evil on years of research and study. I have been consistant on this since I joined this forum, ask CC he can vouch for me on that.

    Ikari, its called freedom of speech and your gonna have to learn to deal with it at some point.
    Who is trying to take away your freedom of speech? You are expressing your opinions and others are expressing theirs.

    There is a huge difference here. Your views on Islam, if you had your way, directly contradict the freedom of religion that we celebrate in this country. People pointing this out to you or criticizing your views in no way hampers your freedom of speech. Not once did anyone here say that you didn't have the right to bring this stuff up.
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