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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Hello, christianity.
    With the exception that Canon law no longer dictates that anyone who leaves the slavery is to be killed; whereas, all five schools of Islamic fiqh dictate that apostasy is a capital offense. But other than that ya they're both pretty scary.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You're generalizating Islamism for Islam. Fail. Is there radicalized Islam? Yep. Is it the majority? Nope. Every movement has a lunatic fringe.
    No all five schools of Islamic Fiqh requires death for apostasy, it is not the minority view it is the mainstream view.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The problem is you call it radical. It is perspective. Many sects of Christianity and other religions do the same in different ways. This does not make it radical.
    Killing people for leaving the faith is not radical? Are you ****ing kidding me?

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Have you seen what JW's and Scientologists do to apostates?
    Do they kill them?

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm suggesting that many religions have sanctions for apostasy. This is not at all uncommon, it's how the shepherds control the flock. If the ramifications for apostasy are not enforced by other believers, they are threatened in eternal terms (i.e., "You're going to burn in hell, sinner!!!"). Why do you hold Islam to a standard that you do not utilize for any other denomination or belief system?
    No the mainstream view within Islam is that apostasy is to be punished by death, that is the view held by most mainstream Islamic scholars. The same can not be said for Christianity or most other religions.
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 05-10-10 at 12:43 PM.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    No the mainstream view within Islam is that apostasy is to be punished by death, that is the view held by most mainstream Islamic scholars. The same can not be said for Christianity or most other religions.
    It's a matter of timing. Christianity did in fact punish apostasy with death, and killed millions of people during the years between 300 and 1800 A.D.

    I'm not going to judge Islam by a different standard with Christian history is replete with episodes of bloodthirstiness.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Do they kill them?
    No, they ostracize them and financially ruin them. Of course, it isn't legal for them to kill people in the civilized West anymore.

    http://articles.sfgate.com/2001-02-1...rican-religion

    Two ways the church deals with critics are lawsuits, its own undercover investigations and public denunciations of those attacking the church.

    "Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way," Hubbard once advised his troops. "Start feeding lurid blood, sex crime, actual evidence on the attack to the press."

    Given those instructions, it is not surprising how church leaders responded to Woodcraft's allegations.
    In the late 1800s, Mormons killed Apostates, too.
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 05-10-10 at 12:47 PM.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Killing people for leaving the faith is not radical? Are you ****ing kidding me?
    The article he quoted AND the subject had nothing to do with killing anyone. He tried to change the goal posts later.

    Please if you are going to jump in with nonsense. At least read the previous posts.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It's a matter of timing. Christianity did in fact punish apostasy with death, and killed millions of people during the years between 300 and 1800 A.D.
    And Islam has been doing it between 500 A.D. and today.

    I'm not going to judge Islam by a different standard with Christian history is replete with episodes of bloodthirstiness.
    Um it's not history for Islam that's a pretty key difference. Christianity may have once been just as crazy as Islam but it isn't any longer today Islam takes the winning prize of bat**** craziest and most violent theist belief structure.

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