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Thread: Mosque near WTC moves forward

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Okay, I guess this needs to be spelled out for you.

    Here's a quote out of context: "Kill every black person you see."

    Out of context, this individual looks like a violent racist. In reality, this person lives in a kingdom where only white people live. They are being attacked by a rival kingdom comprised solely of black people. Your perception and understanding of the situation is altered when the quote is put in context. Do you get it now?
    Dude I know what the meaning of context is. Please do not insult my intelligence. You show me where the quotes that I posted are out of context. You did say afterall "More than likely, they are taken completely out of context"

    Show Me!
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Dude I know what the meaning of context is. Please do not insult my intelligence. You show me where the quotes that I posted are out of context. You did say afterall "More than likely, they are taken completely out of context"

    Show Me!
    Jesus Christ...

    THEY ARE OUT OF CONTEXT BECAUSE YOU POSTED QUOTES WITH NO CONTEXT.

    I cannot make this any simpler to understand.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You sure did. Here's the problem: Your post is comprised of opinion and unsubstantiated claims. First, I can't prove an opinion wrong, as opinions are neither wrong nor right. Second, there is no need for me to refute unsubstantiated claims until you can substantiate them. You have been on this site long enough to know how this works.
    I posted quotes directly from the quran. How is that opinion, its written in the quran. My god you are dense.

    do you want me to quote the entire quran for christ sake?
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I posted quotes directly from the quran. How is that opinion, its written in the quran. My god you are dense.

    Follow the posts, you keep getting lost somewhere...

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Because the crusades happened hundreds of years ago. And only a few examples of Christains killing for thier god are relevant today. 99% of the murdering in the name of god these days is being done by muslims waging holy war around the globe. Tell me where Im wrong, please.
    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    We are talking about violence in the name of God. The Crusades fit the bill, regardless of when they were carried out.


    There's your opinion masquerading as fact... Again...


    Please support your figure with a source. Thanks in advance.
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    I asked you to tell me where I am wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You sure did. Here's the problem: Your post is comprised of opinion and unsubstantiated claims. First, I can't prove an opinion wrong, as opinions are neither wrong nor right. Second, there is no need for me to refute unsubstantiated claims until you can substantiate them. You have been on this site long enough to know how this works.
    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I posted quotes directly from the quran. How is that opinion, its written in the quran. My god you are dense.
    Where, in any of those posts, did you post quotes from the Koran? You do realize that we currently have two separate conversations going on, right?
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Ok I will post the context to the post I made directly from the quran. When I do I want you to explain how those quotes mean anything different when in context.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Follow the posts, you keep getting lost somewhere...











    Where, in any of those posts, did you post quotes from the Koran? You do realize that we currently have two separate conversations going on, right?
    Man you are giving me a freakin major headache. Check post #219 where I posted quotes from the Quran.

    here it is.

    Here are just a few. Let me know if you need more. I only wish to help you to understand that Islam is evil.


    Qur'an 5:51
    "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other."

    Qur'an 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth, People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low."

    Qur'an:47:4 "So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle, smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    There is no argument here.

    NO ONE can argue that there is any justification for not building this Mosque. There is NO freedom from being offended by anyone or any group. And its totally irrelevant if the 9/11 attackers were Muslim or that our current enemies are mostly Muslim. It wouldnt matter if the guy who was building that mosque was the only peaceful Muslim in the entire world, he's got a right to worship how he pleases as long as its peaceful.

    If you want to argue that you have a freedom to not be offended, how do you decide whos right to not be offended is greater? I'm sure these muslims who would attend and build this mosque would be offended about not being allowed to, what gives you or anyone else the right to say their freedoms and rights are less important than yours.

    You may have your opinions, you may think its totally tasteless and offensive, but that provides no right to remove it from your view or limit the freedoms of others.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Man you are giving me a freakin major headache. Check post #219 where I posted quotes from the Quran.

    here it is.

    Here are just a few. Let me know if you need more. I only wish to help you to understand that Islam is evil.


    Qur'an 5:51
    "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other."

    Qur'an 9:29 "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth, People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low."

    Qur'an:47:4 "So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle, smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."
    That's a completely different string of posts. We had two conversations going and you are mixing them up. One conversation is A(you) and B(me). The other is C(you) and D(me). You are mixing D responses with B responses.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    EgoffTib, I am going out to have supper and a couple beers. When I get back I will post the quotes from the quran I posted IN CONTEXT so you can try to explain to me how they really don't mean what they say, ok.

    It is saturday night in Texas afterall.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    That's a completely different string of posts. We had two conversations going and you are mixing them up. One conversation is A(you) and B(me). The other is C(you) and D(me). You are mixing D responses with B responses.
    Please stop trying to confuse me Im not as smart as you. See ya later, I got a cold one with my name on it.
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