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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I have a bigotry towards any bat**** crazy ideology, theist belief structures don't get a free pass because they say that their bat**** crazy belief system was mandated by some imaginary man in the sky. If anything that makes it even more bat**** crazy and dangerous.
    And so I hit the nail firmly on the head. Whats your problem with me calling it like I see it and being correct?

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    What exactly is wrong about my conclusions here?
    You read the rest of the posts with myself and others already pointing it out correct?
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Around the world has nothing at all to do with this. We are talking about the US. Islam in itself is no more evil than Christianity, period.

    I mean if you want I can go verse for verse between the 2 holy books to prove it.

    Again you want to compare the minority to the majority in one case, but not the other. Classic bigotry and denial.
    There is a difference. Christainity has gone through a reformation Islam has not. Christains do not act violently in the name of there god. They do not take the bible literaly. Muslims are required to submit totally. They must take the Quran literally because Allah is perfect and therefor the quran is perfect. And if Allah demands that his followers kill infidels in holy war then as submitting believers, muslims must serve Allah by wageing jihad against infidels. Its that simple. Ask a muslim if he or she can disregard the parts of the Quran they disagree with and still be considered a muslim?
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    How do you figure?
    Under Islam there is no freedom of religion, there is no freedom of speech, etc in fact the definition of the word Islam is submission IE Muslims view being a slave to god as a virtue.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    How exactly do you figure that? When was Islam more tolerant than it is today? If anything Islam has been forced to compromise due to the strength of the Western World.
    Do you know the history of Wahhabism? Its a 20th century phenomenon, mostly most post- colonial. The Ottomans certainly weren't fundamentalists.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    I noticed you have avoided my post Sgt. Despite your "knowledge of Islam" you don't really seem to have a clue about the politics of Muslim nations.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Would you care to explain how the individuals involved with the proposed mosque are the "enimies" of freedom?
    They are muslim. There is no freedom under Islam only total submission to Allah. Therefor they are enimies of freedom. And when if ever there population increases in the United States to levels of majority there will be no freedom in the USA.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And so I hit the nail firmly on the head. Whats your problem with me calling it like I see it and being correct?
    I don't see how judging someone on their belief system is akin to bigotry, ones belief system is something they control unlike their skin color, ethnicity, nationality etc. By your reasoning one is a bigot for disliking Nazi's, Communists, members of the KKK etc.

    You read the rest of the posts with myself and others already pointing it out correct?
    You resorted to a ad-hominem logical fallacy by calling me a bigot, that hardly proves my point invalid.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Do you know the history of Wahhabism? Its a 20th century phenomenon, mostly most post- colonial. The Ottomans certainly weren't fundamentalists.
    They certainly weren't tolerant either.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Not all Muslims are freedom haters. My babysitter as a child was an Iranian Muslim woman and she lived freely. She had a daughter that lived near her and both of them were US citizens that support freedom and our country.

    In regards to the mosque though, they are completely in their rights to build the mosque where they have chosen to build it. However, their decision to do so is very arrogant and disrespectful given the location. Honestly I expect and fear that when the mosque is built that we are going to see a lot of vandalism of the building. The government has no right to silence the practice of religion or dictate where religious buildings can be, but ethically speaking their decision to build a mosque there was foolish and distasteful.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    From the historical perspective since the advent of islam during the 7th century, the conquest of islam (from medina to mecca and then swiping across to all of ME, Egypt, Spain, Persia and India like a wild fire) was marked by building of mosques over the sites of destructions of other religious temples or house of worship or hijacking them for conversion into mosques following the usual islamic great slaughters, rapes and plunders on other people’s lands.

    This practice, which they held as a sense of victorious prestige over those subdued much like a dog would pee over its territorial claim, was unique only to animalistic islamic cult. Therefore, the building of "Cordoba House" mosque being built 2 blocks from ground zero in NYC is simply an islamic stealth way of proclaiming victory over their infidels, of whom 3000 such souls were killed. For that they were proud for doing a good job for their allah who demanded for such in the koran. Whatever else they said out of their mouth is just taqiyya, which most muslims are good at it.

    Comparing islam and ground zero in 911 with Christianity and abortion clinics is a fallacy of false comparison. Those 3000 souls killed by the islamic terrorism weren’t in the twin towers to slaughter innocent unborn babies. Abortionists in abortion clinics are in there to slaughter innocent unborn human lives. Killing someone who is killing or about to kill another innocent human being is not the same as killing people who simply go to work that do not involve the shedding of innocent bloods.

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