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Thread: Mosque near WTC moves forward

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Just to be pedantic, Islam was actually quite fine until the 20th century when Wahabism, a belief from the 18th century, was finally utilized.
    Um no actually it wasn't according to Islamic Fiqh Mohamed himself committed mass genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Jewish Banu tribe on the Arabian Peninsula. The mass genocide on the Indian Subcontinent occurred before then and that was a genocide not to be outdone until Stalin.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Sgt, do you have any knowledge of Middle Eastern geopolitics at all? The largest fighting with radical Islamic groups has been over control of local governments in the middle east. Nationalist and fundamentalist parties fighting each other is the most common form of violence. Pretending that all Muslims are part of some ridiculous borg collective acting with a single mind is laughably false. Politics determines what happens, not ideology. Syria for example, has no problem supporting fundamentalist hezbollah in Lebanon for its own ends, but slaughtered an entire city to crush the equally fundamentalist muslim brothehood within their own borders.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Islam is bigotry on a grand scale, their whole entire ideology is centered around the belief that non-Muslims are lesser people, the same as Christianity, the same as most theist belief structures.
    Well, they're both Abrahamic religions, along with Judaism, so it's not very surprising there are a lot of similarities.
    If you want peace and tolerance, look to the Buddhists.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    And do christians take the bible literally as musims must.
    When it suits their purposes, absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Are Christians flying airplanes into buildings to serve thier god?
    No, they're flying military aircraft over hot zones instead.

    How many times have we heard quotes from various and sundry soldiers and officers that our wars in the middle east are "holy" wars?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I can document aa hundred muslim jihadist for every Christian terrorist you can come up with.
    So what ratio of militant extremists to total number of adherents is tolerable, exactly?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Islam is bigotry on a grand scale, their whole entire ideology is centered around the belief that non-Muslims are lesser people, the same as Christianity, the same as most theist belief structures.
    Well at least you are even handed in your bigotry.

    Like I said lets just throw the Constitution into the trash. Obviously we don't need it anymore and would rather live under a military dictatorship. The state will be our new God.

    That sounds way to familiar?
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes the extremists Christians.



    Many Christians kill in the name of God, even though it is wrong. Same goes for Islam.

    But you would rather compare Islam to radicals and Christians to moderates. How dishonest of you.
    Its not dishonest, Islam is evil, read the Quran and its Surahs. Then take a look around at the evil being done in the name of Allah by individuals and Islamic nations around the world. If at that point you do not come to the same conclussion that I have in regards to Islam then you are in denial. Just my opinion.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Um no actually it wasn't according to Islamic Fiqh Mohamed himself committed mass genocide and ethnic cleansing against the Jewish Banu tribe on the Arabian Peninsula. The mass genocide on the Indian Subcontinent occurred before then and that was a genocide not to be outdone until Stalin.
    Perhaps "just fine" was a bit overdone, but Islam in its current state, with the Koran being institutionally interpreted in much less lenient way didn't come into being until the 20th century.

    Edit: Oh, and as far as picking out individual examples of civilizations acting badly, you really don't want to go there.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 05-08-10 at 02:07 PM.

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Well, they're both Abrahamic religions, along with Judaism, so it's not very surprising there are a lot of similarities.
    If you want peace and tolerance, look to the Buddhists.
    Meh Buddhists are more peaceful I suppose but their belief structure centered around the virtues of poverty and self denial go along way to explain why much of Asia lived and continues to live in abject poverty

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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Well at least you are even handed in your bigotry.

    Like I said lets just throw the Constitution into the trash. Obviously we don't need it anymore and would rather live under a military dictatorship. The state will be our new God.

    That sounds way to familiar?
    I never said we should throw away our constitution like our current president would like to do. I am saying we have got to recognise who the enimies of freedom are. We can not stop them from building thier mosque near ground zero. But we can voice our disaproval and we should. We should object to a mosque being built near sacred ground. Its the American way.
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    Re: Mosque near WTC moves forward

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Its not dishonest, Islam is evil, read the Quran and its Surahs.
    The Bible, as I've said many times and you have yet to respond to, has some pretty nasty stuff too.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Then take a look around at the evil being done in the name of Allah by individuals and Islamic nations around the world.
    People calling themselves Christians have and continue to do the same thing. How many times have elected officials and pundits called upon their faith to justify saying or doing despicable things -- or even better yet, to act ask a mask for the despicable things they do in private?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If at that point you do not come to the same conclussion that I have in regards to Islam then you are in denial.
    No, not really.

    It just indicates a lack of blindness, or blinders.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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