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  • Yes, this argument is sound

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  • No, the argument is not sound

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  • It apples to all rights.

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Thread: Is a right delayed a right denied?

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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    It's an artificial milk substitute, 2nd prototype tested, as opposed to MLK1, which failed due to sabotage by...



    Sometimes the places my mind goes make me think I'm insane...wait...

    Anyway, I'm assuming he was referring to Martin Luther King Jr., or the second person by that name, thus M.L.K. 2
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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    What the **** is MLK2? .


    I think it is something like MST3000.

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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    Not having heard MLK Jr actually use this quote, and not knowing if it was used in conjuction with other thoughts on the matter, and knowing the time period in which he lived, my impression is that he was probably referring to civil rights in specific- legislation establishing a "right", not rights which are already established legally, and not infringement on already existent legal rights. Am I missing something in the OP's question?
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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    The argument is not sound because it provides no context. There are constraints to every one of the rights in the constitution. For instance, you can't hold a protest in many cities without a permit. Your right to march can be delayed or denied if it endangers public safety or the safety of those marching.

    If rights are denied broadly, indefinitely, and without justification or approval of the people, then the constitution is being violated and people should take up arms against their government.

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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    I would say not necessarily denied (depending upon the actual right), but to delay is certainly to infringe upon...
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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    depends. If you are delayed in voting past the time the poll closes t han your right delayed is a right denied. If you try to buy a gun and have to wait and are then killed or robbed-again that is a denial of a right
    It was'nt denied only -delayed until the next time you get to vote A reasonable person well assumes life is not always fair and sometimes we suffer," fate- The errors in life that are of no cause or malice .
    If your shot and killed the Democrats still count your vote so the right was only delayed.

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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    Quote Originally Posted by b.larset View Post
    It was'nt denied only -delayed until the next time you get to vote A reasonable person well assumes life is not always fair and sometimes we suffer," fate- The errors in life that are of no cause or malice .
    If your shot and killed the Democrats still count your vote so the right was only delayed.
    I see DEAD PEOPLE VOTING!!



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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    We're all familiar with the famous quote from MLK2:

    "A right delayed is a right denied"

    Is this sound?
    Does this argument apply to all rights, or only certain rights?
    If not all, then which ones?
    Why does it not apply to those you excluded?
    It all depends on what people think their "rights" are. There are still rights people feel they should have that lay outside the constitution.

    For instance, some feel they have a right to have an abortion because it is their body. Well, a "right" delayed is a "right" denied.

    Or a gun owner who has to wait a grace period to buy a gun, some could apply the quote here as well.

    Concerning the constitution, I don't believe there is any situation that this quote would apply to. We all have the same rights and I feel the constitution is well balanced and includes the most important rights we should have.

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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    By definition, a delay is a temporary denial.

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    Re: Is a right delayed a right denied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    By definition, a delay is a temporary denial.
    Yea but the government has the ability to delay indefinitely.
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