View Poll Results: Would you trade another thirty years of drilling for the rest of the gulf coast?

Voters
26. You may not vote on this poll
  • yes

    7 26.92%
  • no

    18 69.23%
  • hell yes I'm in the oil business

    0 0%
  • I would trade the chesapeake bay for 30 years of drilling

    1 3.85%
Page 1 of 8 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 72

Thread: Off shore drilling

  1. #1
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    virginia
    Last Seen
    04-01-13 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    16,881
    Blog Entries
    19

    Off shore drilling

    Most of the pro oil people are saying that "well, we only had one accident in 30 years" (which I believe is an outright lie).

    Wouldn't it be a lot better and cheaper to seek safer energy sources?

  2. #2
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,548

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Being a scuba diver in Florida, I can honestly say no.

    Until someone has the technology to stop something from happening on this level. I would rather suffer high fuel prices and anything else for that matter.

    We are still to this day cleaning up the Exxon Valdez. This is much MUCH worse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  3. #3
    King Of The Dog Pound
    Black Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    South Florida
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    34,548

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Most of the pro oil people are saying that "well, we only had one accident in 30 years" (which I believe is an outright lie).

    Wouldn't it be a lot better and cheaper to seek safer energy sources?
    Ummmm this is the only oil rig spill in the last 30 years? How is that a lie?

    My problem is with the scope of this thing. The entire coastal gulf region is being threatened by this disaster.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 05-05-10 at 02:57 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  4. #4
    Banned Goobieman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Seen
    03-22-15 @ 02:36 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    17,343

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Most of the pro oil people are saying that "well, we only had one accident in 30 years" (which I believe is an outright lie).

    Wouldn't it be a lot better and cheaper to seek safer energy sources?
    Like... what?
    What cheaper and safer energy sources pack a comparble energy density?

    Aside from that... false dichotomy.
    No reason to not explore for and use oil for however long we can.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    09-22-10 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    11,430

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Most of the pro oil people are saying that "well, we only had one accident in 30 years" (which I believe is an outright lie).

    Wouldn't it be a lot better and cheaper to seek safer energy sources?
    Wouldn't it be better to simply install the necessary safety gear this rig lacked so the preventable accident will be prevented next time, and thus restore access to safe and cheap oil?

  6. #6
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Goldsboro,PA
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 04:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    5,596
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Intelligent men must determine if drilling is truly economically feasible, this applies to everything.
    Do we have any intelligent people who cannot be corrupted ?
    For instance, this accident may have an end cost of a trillion dollars, guess who pays for this?
    We need more rules and regulations, if the oil companies refuse to obey, then they should be forced out of business and all the CEO and executives fined into permanent poverty. Or, we could force the executives and CEOs to clean up their mess using a toothbrush....
    Of course, I still favor off-shore and wilderness drilling, but with different people doing it.
    We still need comprehensive energy reform; the Dems must do this.
    Forget the GOP.
    BP is out.

  7. #7
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Goldsboro,PA
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 04:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    5,596
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to simply install the necessary safety gear this rig lacked so the preventable accident will be prevented next time, and thus restore access to safe and cheap oil?
    Common sense, I agree.
    But, this can be expensive and may not be totally effective....
    Motorcyclists are forced to wear helmets, car drivers the harness, the off-shore oil drillers - full back up systems to prevent this from recurring... ..If this cannot be done, then no more drilling until a good system can be designed.

  8. #8
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Wouldn't it be a lot better and cheaper to seek safer energy sources?
    Not currently, you have to put the research in first. Which is happening on some scale. Less we want to be moving towards nuclear power (and we should), as it is the cleanest, most efficient form of energy we currently have. But we're never going to get completely away from oil, it's used for everything. And I bet dollars to donuts that most of the people who sit there and bitch about this use their fair share of oil and oil based products. We can reduce what we use, and we should. We should look for alternate energy sources and where we can put them. The human race has accomplished nothing through stagnation; we've always pushed forward. But oil is going to be necessary for a good long while still, and will likely never completely go away.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  9. #9
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 06:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,740

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Being a scuba diver in Florida, I can honestly say no.

    Until someone has the technology to stop something from happening on this level. I would rather suffer high fuel prices and anything else for that matter.

    We are still to this day cleaning up the Exxon Valdez. This is much MUCH worse.


    They have the technology, they say had the booms been in place 95% of the spilll could have been contained.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  10. #10
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Goldsboro,PA
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 04:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    5,596
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Like... what?
    What cheaper and safer energy sources pack a comparable energy density?

    Aside from that... false dichotomy.
    No reason to not explore for and use oil for however long we can.
    A fail safe system may boost the oil cost to $1,000 per barrel...I can say this as the clean up cost is unknown, it may run into the trillions of $$$$$$$$$$$.
    Solar and wind energy are now feasible when oil is more than, I'd guess, $50 per barrel..
    Nuclear energy is still inexpensive, why would Europe be using so much of this??
    I have never seen any energy costs that I trust, so I'll guess..
    Last edited by earthworm; 05-05-10 at 03:50 PM.

Page 1 of 8 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •