View Poll Results: Would you trade another thirty years of drilling for the rest of the gulf coast?

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Thread: Off shore drilling

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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think this poll is bias as it states supporting off shore drilling means that you want to trash the Gulf Coast. I'm all for off shore drilling, but the proper precautions must be met. As it seems, the BP spill may very well be due to those regulations not being met.
    I asked would you be willing to undergo the risk of off shore drilling in exchange for having another accident and ruining more of mother earth. What's wrong with that?

    It's not bias, it's reality and the law of averages, not to mention murphy's law.

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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Failures of 3 count em 3 administrations to follow through with the 1994 contigency plan. It's almost damn criminal that we had the technology but failed to implement it in 16 years.
    Just no excuse, none.

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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    They have the technology, they say had the booms been in place 95% of the spilll could have been contained.
    Who says this?

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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The problem with solar and wind is that you can't drive cars powered this way, and automobiles are the largest single user of oil resources in this country (last I read).

    I'm all for clean and alternative, but it will not be less expensive, and it won't be more efficient. If we ever really truly go clean and green, regular people like you and me will have to accept a less luxurious and more sensible lifestyle. The problem with Americans is that we want to have everything, but we don't want to give up anything. I can. Can you?

    You're right, Lizzie. And no, aside from oil, we are so behind the 8-ball when it comes to alternative solutions to power a car. Nothing so far as come close the the cheapness and versatility that is oil, that I am not sure we could EVER devise something that works as wonderfully. So far, nothing has come close.

    And no doubt, as you have stated, we must change our ways and settle for less. For me, it's not a big deal. For others, much more of a challenge, even for the simple things like trading in their and SUV for a more fuel economical car. This is why I am okay with high gas prices. People only get sensible when they really feel it in their wallets.
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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Common sense, I agree.
    But, this can be expensive and may not be totally effective....
    Motorcyclists are forced to wear helmets, car drivers the harness, the off-shore oil drillers - full back up systems to prevent this from recurring... ..If this cannot be done, then no more drilling until a good system can be designed.
    And yet, motorcyclists still crash and die, car drivers still crash and die, and oil back-up systems can fail.

    Nothing designed by man will be fail-safe. I believe the systems in place were deemed adequate, and clearly no one anticipated a disaster of this scope. From what I understand what caused this incident is fairly common in off-shore drilling, and basically never results in this. From that, I would wager that we have already done as good a job as can realistically be hoped for in attempting to make this kind of operation safe.

    While it is a tragedy, it is not, and should not, be the end of off-shore drilling, or of oil exploration or use in general.

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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Until someone has the technology to stop something from happening on this level. I would rather suffer high fuel prices and anything else for that matter.
    We won't get lower prices from drilling anyway!
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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Who says this?



    It was in the NY Times.
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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Nothing so far as come close the the cheapness and versatility that is oil, that I am not sure we could EVER devise something that works as wonderfully. So far, nothing has come close.
    True. Our government has sunk billions of dollars into the search for alternatives since the late 70's (?), and nothing comes close. Electric? Uses electricity, pollutes more than gasoline, and is very limitied as far as distance goes. It's also not cost-effective for the consumer, because we pay the higher cost up front for the savings in fuel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    And no doubt, as you have stated, we must change our ways and settle for less. For me, it's not a big deal. For others, much more of a challenge, even for the simple things like trading in their and SUV for a more fuel economical car. This is why I am okay with high gas prices. People only get sensible when they really feel it in their wallets.
    I'm not really okay with high gas prices, but I think they are inevitable, and we are going to be caught with our pants down (again). But yes, I can change my ways, which are already fairly low-impact to begin with.
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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Most of the pro oil people are saying that "well, we only had one accident in 30 years" (which I believe is an outright lie).

    Wouldn't it be a lot better and cheaper to seek safer energy sources?
    There is no alternative to oil and all that is made from it.

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    Re: Off shore drilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There is no alternative to oil and all that is made from it.
    Hemp......

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