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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Philidelphia sports fans are savages.
    Beyond savages...downright animals. Bunch of Phillies fans beat some dude to death outside a bar during his bachelors party because there was some dumbass altercation. Brotherly love my ass; those jackasses will stab you with no cause and leave you bleeding to death in the streets. Philadelphia is a hellhole full of barbaric animals and sub-humans.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I played **** tons of backyard tackle ball. I guess I should have used a tazer eh? I mean, it's safer than tackling and I'm not a professional athlete with lots of expensive equipment. So it should have been better for me to use a tazer instead. So we should give our kids tazers when they go out to play tackle football. I mean...it's safer for everyone involved, right?
    As long as everyone agrees to what they're getting into, I have no issue with it either way. /shrug

    No I didn't bring up safety issues, that was you. I said it was best to just tackle the guy.
    I'll admit I may have cross-pollinated your post with another, but I was responding to the following in your post:

    No one was going to get hurt, what the **** is the guy gonna do?
    So are you ok with little kids using tazers during pickup tackle football games?
    Parent and children agree to it, why not?

    You see in the end the "safety" arguments of all flavors are bull**** arguments that don't pan out to reality. We have to ask, why was he tazered? For trespassing during an social entertainment event which he paid to get into. Perhaps in that case, tazering is not all the called for. Especially when the guy is outnumbered and chased down. Just tackle the guy. No more of these BS excuses over "safety". Fact is this has happened numerous times before, it will happen numerous times later. And this is one of the very rare, few cases in which the guy running on the field wasn't tackled. And guess what? Not a bunch of people getting hurt, no players getting thrown on DL because of it, etc. So let's take this for what it is and not go into absurd hyperbole to try to excuse the actions of the police state. Tazering was not necessary.
    Tazering stopped him quickly without harming anyone. Problem solved. That there may have been other ways to solve the situation doesn't negate the fact that the way it was handled was successful, not harmful, and efficient.

    Maybe pansy-asses shouldn't run onto the field.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Let's look at the facts:

    1. Kid is running around in a CLOSED field.
    2. Six guys are chasing him.
    3. The human body tires after strenuous activity.

    Unnecessary.

    That guys been waiting three years to use that taser and finally goes "Oh snap I finally get to use this thing! "
    Could be. Still, I have no sympathy for the kid. Do something stupid, sometimes you get tasered for it. Too bad.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Does every instance of breaking the law require a taser? In my opinion, no. There were 6 guys dealing with this stupid kid... ample enough bodies to tackle him and get him off the field before any damage was done. Listen, these on-filed shenanigans have been done for over 50 years, and each instance was remedied without the use of a taser. I do not recall one instance where a player was hurt because of a streaker or some jerk delaying the game because of stupidity.

    Another thing I dislike about the public is the stupidity of the number of officers dealing with someone.

    6 officers = 6 more people to get injured if the incident got physical (fighting) and a tazer wasn't used.

    6 officers = 6 times more likely to cause physical injury (something a tazer does not, except in freak accidents) during a physical confrontation.

    Also, this argument stinks of an attitude that "Its the officers job to get hurt, the more officers the more we can afford to get hurt doing stuff the hard way"
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Now come on -- the cop had a perfectly good reason to tase the kid.

    He was too fat and slow to catch him.

    And you aren't?
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post

    You see in the end the "safety" arguments of all flavors are bull**** arguments that don't pan out to reality. We have to ask, why was he tazered? For trespassing during an social entertainment event which he paid to get into. Perhaps in that case, tazering is not all the called for. Especially when the guy is outnumbered and chased down. Just tackle the guy. No more of these BS excuses over "safety". Fact is this has happened numerous times before, it will happen numerous times later. And this is one of the very rare, few cases in which the guy running on the field wasn't tackled. And guess what? Not a bunch of people getting hurt, no players getting thrown on DL because of it, etc. So let's take this for what it is and not go into absurd hyperbole to try to excuse the actions of the police state. Tazering was not necessary.
    Ahh, the "outnumbered" argument again.

    Its not a fair fight and isn't supposed to be.

    But it doesn't matter if there is one, six, twelve, or twenty four officers (although by then they'd have a perimeter on the kid). The risk of injury is all the same regardless of how many officers are present if the confrontation gets physical.

    Also, "why" doesn't really matter. If someone assaults an officers after a robbery, or after stealing a pack of bubble gum is all the same, they are both getting the tazer.


    Now for the sake of morons and idiots I have to add a disclaimer that I already stated the use of the tazer was not necessary in this case, as he was only fleeing and not physically threatening or attacking officers. I just can't ****ing stand it when idiots talk about how many officers there are, as if the risks go away when more show up and the person still acts the same.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The gun can elicit response with gun. The knife...that would excuse the tazer, but not a gun. Well that would depend. But if the suspect is standing away from folk brandishing a gun, it's tazer excused. If he's lunging or within proximity of others it's gun excused.
    No, sorry, if I used a knife on an offender, that would be considered lethal force.

    Therefore, if an offender uses a knife on me, I use a gun.

    One step ABOVE the offender.

    Knifes kill people all the time, just ask your nearest mexican neighbor.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    True story... Devils flyers, NJ. Flyers devils fan get into a fight, on the bus ride home same fyers fan stabs another.



    True Story.... Took my wife toa phantoms game when we were in philly, fight breaks out, 9 year old girls in 4h stashes start screaming "kill that mother****er" and other such vernaculars....



    Philidelphia sports fans are savages.
    That's cause they have alll of their teeth fighting at sports events, especially hockey matches.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The amount of hate for the city of brotherly love here is appalling. You should all be ashamed. The Phillies and Flyers don't deserve such bad mouthing though the Eagles should get all they can handle. To those who are Met fans I have one thing to say:


    Whens the last time you heard about an incident at Shea Stadium/Citi Field?? Oh wait thats right never, we know how to act like people unlike Philly.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Whens the last time you heard about an incident at Shea Stadium/Citi Field?? Oh wait thats right never, we know how to act like people unlike Philly.


    Or..... cause it's empty?
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