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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by b.larset View Post
    NASSCAR -fans should be on a regular basis tased and repeatedly so. .
    I don't think most would notice.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then someone better get those offensive linemen some tazers. Maybe that's what Urlacher can use this year. You know...instead of tackling the wide receiver. Be like "well this is safer..."
    IIRC, people who tackle people for a living tend to be better at it and wear safety gear and knowingly accept the risks of tackling and being tackled while they get paid out the wazoo for it.


    Do you people actually ever watch baseball or go to the games?
    No. I am not that masochistic.

    People run on the field a lot. It's not shown on TV to not encourage it, but it's baseball. At least half the people in the stands are drunk out of their minds, the other half are partially out of their minds.

    The people who run out on the field are stopped all the time. No one said let the guy do what he wants. He gets to run on the field of a major league ball park (which has to be awesome!), then gets tackled, arrested, etc. It's happened countless times before, it will happen countless times here after. Nature of the beast. At least he wasn't throwing D batteries at the pitcher like they do at some stadiums. It's overblown. Tazer...maybe ok, but it would have been better to just tackle him. And let's not go down the absurd road of "it's safer to use the tazer". ****ing just tackle the guy and be done with it.
    You're the one who brought up safety issues. If you want to go that route, tazering is safer than tackling them - for BOTH parties. Not to mention, not every cop is going to be able to catch and tackle every person.

    Little jolt isn't going to hurt him. Bet he won't run onto the field again.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Now, that's hate speech.
    I disagree. I thought it was sarcasm and good humor.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    The amount of hate for the city of brotherly love here is appalling. You should all be ashamed. The Phillies and Flyers don't deserve such bad mouthing though the Eagles should get all they can handle. To those who are Met fans I have one thing to say:



    *ahem* However, I do side with you haters by saying, any fan running around a Philly sporting arena delaying the game should be immediately tazered... walked out of the building and then tazered again in the parking lot just being a stupid mofo. I'd also like this type of action to be taken with fans of the Giants, Islanders, Rangers, Blackhawks, Kings, Raiders, Panthers, ... ahh... well... the list is too long. How about I just say ALL fans in any city. There... I feel better.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    2010 Philadelphia Phillies Fan Tasered (VIDEO)

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    Not stopping when ordered to do so is not enough reason to taze someone.


    Now if he threw punches at the Officers.. Then taze him.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I like the restrictions to be put on the State.

    But I mean, let's be realistic here. The guy was merely running around the outfield. Yes it delayed the game, but no more than normal....nothing really happens during a baseball game inbetween pitches and this helped to fill in the gap. No one was going to get hurt, what the **** is the guy gonna do? Whip out a gun or a knife? If so...then ok you have a stronger case for use of tazer. But that's not what happened. It was a drunk fan running around to the amusement of the other drunk fans.

    The best course of action would have been to tackle him, cuff him, lead him away. I wonder what the punishments for these things are? They shouldn't be anything more than a fine.

    Actually, you'd have a stronger case for use of shooting the bastard in the face if he whipped out a gun or a knife.

    We use one level of force ABOVE what the offender uses, not below.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    IIRC, people who tackle people for a living tend to be better at it and wear safety gear and knowingly accept the risks of tackling and being tackled while they get paid out the wazoo for it.
    I played **** tons of backyard tackle ball. I guess I should have used a tazer eh? I mean, it's safer than tackling and I'm not a professional athlete with lots of expensive equipment. So it should have been better for me to use a tazer instead. So we should give our kids tazers when they go out to play tackle football. I mean...it's safer for everyone involved, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No. I am not that masochistic.
    Exactly, so you don't really know what you're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You're the one who brought up safety issues. If you want to go that route, tazering is safer than tackling them - for BOTH parties. Not to mention, not every cop is going to be able to catch and tackle every person.

    Little jolt isn't going to hurt him. Bet he won't run onto the field again.
    No I didn't bring up safety issues, that was you. I said it was best to just tackle the guy. So are you ok with little kids using tazers during pickup tackle football games?

    You see in the end the "safety" arguments of all flavors are bull**** arguments that don't pan out to reality. We have to ask, why was he tazered? For trespassing during an social entertainment event which he paid to get into. Perhaps in that case, tazering is not all the called for. Especially when the guy is outnumbered and chased down. Just tackle the guy. No more of these BS excuses over "safety". Fact is this has happened numerous times before, it will happen numerous times later. And this is one of the very rare, few cases in which the guy running on the field wasn't tackled. And guess what? Not a bunch of people getting hurt, no players getting thrown on DL because of it, etc. So let's take this for what it is and not go into absurd hyperbole to try to excuse the actions of the police state. Tazering was not necessary.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Actually, you'd have a stronger case for use of shooting the bastard in the face if he whipped out a gun or a knife.

    We use one level of force ABOVE what the offender uses, not below.
    The gun can elicit response with gun. The knife...that would excuse the tazer, but not a gun. Well that would depend. But if the suspect is standing away from folk brandishing a gun, it's tazer excused. If he's lunging or within proximity of others it's gun excused.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    One day later a 34-year-old man who ran on the field at a Phillies game to chants of "Tase him!" has been charged with marijuana possession, criminal mischief, disorderly conduct and other counts. WTF is wrong with these people?


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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The amount of hate for the city of brotherly love here is appalling. You should all be ashamed. The Phillies and Flyers don't deserve such bad mouthing though the Eagles should get all they can handle. To those who are Met fans I have one thing to say:


    True story... Devils flyers, NJ. Flyers devils fan get into a fight, on the bus ride home same fyers fan stabs another.



    True Story.... Took my wife toa phantoms game when we were in philly, fight breaks out, 9 year old girls in 4h stashes start screaming "kill that mother****er" and other such vernaculars....



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