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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Let's say no one had a taser gun. Would the 6 men have been successful in eventually stopping this idiotic kid? I think so. So I cannot help but conclude that it was excessive.
    So what you're saying is that one man, who broke the rules and the law, and then evaded being caught, should not be tazed at the expense of the players on the field, the coaches and executives who would be affected by a player injury, the fans in the stands that paid money to see a baseball game not a 8 minute chase, and the security who are having to run and chase after a guy breaking the law and risk injury in subduing him when another option is available.

    Sorry, but I put the safety and convience of the people not breaking the law over the possible discomfort and extremely slim danger of the guy breaking it.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    I like the restrictions to be put on the State.

    But I mean, let's be realistic here. The guy was merely running around the outfield. Yes it delayed the game, but no more than normal....nothing really happens during a baseball game inbetween pitches and this helped to fill in the gap. No one was going to get hurt, what the **** is the guy gonna do? Whip out a gun or a knife? If so...then ok you have a stronger case for use of tazer. But that's not what happened. It was a drunk fan running around to the amusement of the other drunk fans.

    The best course of action would have been to tackle him, cuff him, lead him away. I wonder what the punishments for these things are? They shouldn't be anything more than a fine.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Maybe he runs up and tries to hug a player, maybe he tries to evade the cop and stumbles into a play, or any other number of things? Unlikely? Perhaps, but so is the notion of him dieing or suffering long term damage from a tazer. So frankly if we're talking about two unlikely scenario's I'm more in favor of siding with the safety of the officers and the players than the guy obviously breaking the law.

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    The likely scenario is that the play is stopped, the guy gets his fun running around, is tackled by cops, and then is hauled away.

    Injury or whatever....rarely happens and almost never to the players. Remember the guy who rushed the field and the pitcher ****ing laid his ass out. Guy had no ill intent, but the pitcher took him down. That's a hell of a lot more likely than the drunk guy hurting the players or something like that.

    This is a no harm no foul sort of "crime". No one was at risk, no one was threatened, it was just a drunk guy doing what drunk guy's do.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Let's look at the facts:

    1. Kid is running around in a CLOSED field.
    2. Six guys are chasing him.
    3. The human body tires after strenuous activity.

    Unnecessary.

    That guys been waiting three years to use that taser and finally goes "Oh snap I finally get to use this thing! "
    Soo.... the answer is that the game stops. And everyone just stands there and watches until he runs himself out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I like the restrictions to be put on the State.

    But I mean, let's be realistic here. The guy was merely running around the outfield. Yes it delayed the game, but no more than normal....nothing really happens during a baseball game inbetween pitches and this helped to fill in the gap. No one was going to get hurt, what the **** is the guy gonna do? Whip out a gun or a knife? If so...then ok you have a stronger case for use of tazer. But that's not what happened. It was a drunk fan running around to the amusement of the other drunk fans.

    The best course of action would have been to tackle him, cuff him, lead him away. I wonder what the punishments for these things are? They shouldn't be anything more than a fine.
    Tackling him could easily be much more dangerous than tazing him, for both the tackler and the tackled.

    If he whipped out a knife or gun, he would have been shot with a gun. Not tazed.

    If they did nothing to stop him, how many more people do you think would try it at the next game?

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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Here in Indiana they tased a 10 year old boy! Anyone see that?
    Although tasers are a tool that should only be used in the most strict situations to subdue someone who has became unruly.
    NASSCAR -fans should be on a regular basis tased and repeatedly so. Only because watching something go left, left , left- and for two days even in the rain is just plain nuts man!
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Tackling him could easily be much more dangerous than tazing him, for both the tackler and the tackled.
    Then someone better get those offensive linemen some tazers. Maybe that's what Urlacher can use this year. You know...instead of tackling the wide receiver. Be like "well this is safer..."

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If he whipped out a knife or gun, he would have been shot with a gun. Not tazed.

    If they did nothing to stop him, how many more people do you think would try it at the next game?
    Do you people actually ever watch baseball or go to the games? People run on the field a lot. It's not shown on TV to not encourage it, but it's baseball. At least half the people in the stands are drunk out of their minds, the other half are partially out of their minds.

    The people who run out on the field are stopped all the time. No one said let the guy do what he wants. He gets to run on the field of a major league ball park (which has to be awesome!), then gets tackled, arrested, etc. It's happened countless times before, it will happen countless times here after. Nature of the beast. At least he wasn't throwing D batteries at the pitcher like they do at some stadiums. It's overblown. Tazer...maybe ok, but it would have been better to just tackle him. And let's not go down the absurd road of "it's safer to use the tazer". ****ing just tackle the guy and be done with it.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    I voted Other: A taser on isn't enough for most Phillies fans. They also should be spayed or neutered.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So what you're saying is that one man, who broke the rules and the law, and then evaded being caught, should not be tazed at the expense of the players on the field, the coaches and executives who would be affected by a player injury, the fans in the stands that paid money to see a baseball game not a 8 minute chase, and the security who are having to run and chase after a guy breaking the law and risk injury in subduing him when another option is available.

    Sorry, but I put the safety and convience of the people not breaking the law over the possible discomfort and extremely slim danger of the guy breaking it.
    Does every instance of breaking the law require a taser? In my opinion, no. There were 6 guys dealing with this stupid kid... ample enough bodies to tackle him and get him off the field before any damage was done. Listen, these on-filed shenanigans have been done for over 50 years, and each instance was remedied without the use of a taser. I do not recall one instance where a player was hurt because of a streaker or some jerk delaying the game because of stupidity.
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    Re: Phillies Fan Tasered - Good Move or Bad Move?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    There is no reason they couldn't have just tackled the guy and pinned him. .
    Now come on -- the cop had a perfectly good reason to tase the kid.

    He was too fat and slow to catch him.
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