View Poll Results: What types of simulated/depicted child porn should be illegal?

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  • Photo shopped,cut and pasted/collage

    15 34.09%
  • Cartoons(western, anime and etc)

    9 20.45%
  • Still drawings

    10 22.73%
  • CGI/poser

    9 20.45%
  • other (please specify)

    4 9.09%
  • I do not know.

    2 4.55%
  • None of those things should be banned

    27 61.36%
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    Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    What types of simulated/depicted child porn should be illegal?

    Photo shopped,cut and pasted/collage

    Cartoons(western, anime and etc)

    Drawings

    CGI/poser

    other

    I do not know.

    None of those things should be banned
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    None of them should be banned. Child Pornography is only illegal because you have to harm a child to make it. Drawings and CGI hurt no one. Free speech doesn't go away simply because its really horrible and disturbing.

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    None of them should be banned.
    Regardless of how realistic looking a image is?


    I know this is not a depiction of a child, but some sicko with some skills could make something similar depicting a child engaged in a sexual act.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Regardless of how realistic looking a image is?

    I know this is not a depiction of a child, but some sicko with some skills could make something similar depicting a child engaged in a sexual act.
    As long as a child in real life isn't being forced to perform such an act on camera, the first amendment applies. The law is interested in protecting children, not preventing pedophiles from getting off.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    As long as a child in real life isn't being forced to perform such an act on camera, the first amendment applies. The law is interested in protecting children, not preventing pedophiles from getting off.
    I agree with that.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    The Supreme Court already ruled on this; I'll try to find the link. Possession of child pornography is illegal only because it is, in essence, contributing to the child's harm.

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?
    There's a grey area in this... I think it would be best to deal with individual cases rather then sweeping laws on this one.

    What types of simulated/depicted child porn should be illegal?
    I would say that the ones that are explicitly depicting already illegal situations... so, those pictures your mom took of you in the bathtub are embarrasing but not illegal.

    Photo shopped,cut and pasted/collage

    Cartoons(western, anime and etc)

    Drawings
    This would probably be best on a case by case basis... don't want to end up accidentally turning parents into 'pedophiles'.

    [quote[CGI/poser[/quote]

    I would say that it would depend on the nature of the CGI and how explicit of an image / scene is created. Generally I would say no for artistic purposes, but if it's artwork, there is a better effect to engage in shunning of the artist rather then legal action.

    other

    I do not know.

    None of those things should be banned
    No, banning photos / artwork is not a good idea... however, free speech DOES have limits... so, you can't have child porn and call it first ammendment because it involves engaging in otherwise illegal activities. Also, you don't want to illegalize normal behavior either.

    There are a number of cases where parents would be accused of child porn when they took pictures of their children half-naked, so, reallly this can be taken too far.

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    So long as minors are neither hurt mentally or physically. Anything under 15 should be considered rape. Above MUST be consentual. If there is a 10 year difference ... their balls should be cut off ( 15-18 )
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    The Supreme Court already ruled on this; I'll try to find the link. Possession of child pornography is illegal only because it is, in essence, contributing to the child's harm.
    That is correct. And disgusting!
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    So you said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    If there is a 10 year difference ... their balls should be cut off ( 15-18 )
    ... then you said this ...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    That is correct. And disgusting!
    I found that hilarious.

    "Oh god you're so disgusting, I'm gonna do something disgusting to you, not because it achieves anything, but because it makes me feel better!"

    I mean yeah what these people do is horrible, but an eye for an eye makes the world blind.


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