View Poll Results: What types of simulated/depicted child porn should be illegal?

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  • Photo shopped,cut and pasted/collage

    15 34.09%
  • Cartoons(western, anime and etc)

    9 20.45%
  • Still drawings

    10 22.73%
  • CGI/poser

    9 20.45%
  • other (please specify)

    4 9.09%
  • I do not know.

    2 4.55%
  • None of those things should be banned

    27 61.36%
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The fact that it promotes the abuse and exploitation of children is logical enough for me.
    Does it? Can that be proved?
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The fact that it promotes the abuse and exploitation of children is logical enough for me.
    How, exactly, does it do that?
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Does it? Can that be proved?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    How, exactly, does it do that?
    I am disappointed and more than a little disgusted that I even have to answer these questions.

    Pornography stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain. That's why people watch it. And like anything else that stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain, it conditions people to want more of it-- and in the case of child pornography, regardless of whether it is stimulated or not, it conditions viewers to be sexually attracted to children. It encourages these urges and helps viewers convince themselves that the urge to sexually abuse children is normal and natural.

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Pornography stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain. That's why people watch it. And like anything else that stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain, it conditions people to want more of it-- and in the case of child pornography, regardless of whether it is stimulated or not, it conditions viewers to be sexually attracted to children. It encourages these urges and helps viewers convince themselves that the urge to sexually abuse children is normal and natural.
    Most people watch movies filled with all kinds of murder and violence without ever acting them out in real life. There is no hard evidence that looking at drawings of child porn causes real life molestations. It could even be the opposite. There have been cases of men who became so addicted to porn they stopped having real life sex with their wives.

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I am disappointed and more than a little disgusted that I even have to answer these questions.

    Pornography stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain. That's why people watch it. And like anything else that stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain, it conditions people to want more of it-- and in the case of child pornography, regardless of whether it is stimulated or not, it conditions viewers to be sexually attracted to children. It encourages these urges and helps viewers convince themselves that the urge to sexually abuse children is normal and natural.
    I almost agree with you here. Except for the fact that there was a law against simulated child sexual acts and it ended up outlawing the Academy Award Winning film THE TIN DRUM and actually would have made performances of ROMEO & JULIET illegal because there is an implied sexual act between them and they're both minors.

    I think that's important to be addressed.

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I am disappointed and more than a little disgusted that I even have to answer these questions.

    Pornography stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain. That's why people watch it. And like anything else that stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain, it conditions people to want more of it-- and in the case of child pornography, regardless of whether it is stimulated or not, it conditions viewers to be sexually attracted to children. It encourages these urges and helps viewers convince themselves that the urge to sexually abuse children is normal and natural.
    I must firmly disagree.

    Watching pornography does stimulate the pleasure centers of the brain, but I hardly think you could put it up there as ADDICTIVE. We generally dont accept the idea that regular porn is addictive, why should child porn be any different?

    And in the case of pornography that involves some seriously kinky things, regular viewers still understand that this is a little odd to most other people and arent quick to advertise this is what they're into. Watching porn also doesnt diminish your understanding of right and wrong or your ability to understand the law.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    I am disappointed and more than a little disgusted that I even have to answer these questions.

    Pornography stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain. That's why people watch it. And like anything else that stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain, it conditions people to want more of it-- and in the case of child pornography, regardless of whether it is stimulated or not, it conditions viewers to be sexually attracted to children. It encourages these urges and helps viewers convince themselves that the urge to sexually abuse children is normal and natural.
    That's like saying that watching porn will make one more apt to commit rape.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The fact that it promotes the abuse and exploitation of children is logical enough for me.
    I have some sympathy for people who have in the UK been arrested for downloading child porn when they themselves were the victims of this as children. They themselves did not harm the child and they say and it may very well be true that they downloaded it because they were trying to work through what happened to them.

    Given that people can be charged certainly in the UK for having possession of child porn material, my own belief is very near yours.

    I think if it is made to appear that it is a child, then even if it is not a child, the sanctity of the innocence and protection of children has been breached.

    Regardless of whether in this incident an actual child has been harmed, children en mass have as it is suggesting such activity is appropriate and acceptable with children.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    It is illegal, so shouldn't the question be why it shouldn't be?

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    None of them should be banned. Child Pornography is only illegal because you have to harm a child to make it.
    I'm thankful our existing law isn't so shortsighted (and that our country isn't run by Libertarians). Child porn is illegal regardless of whether it does harm to the child.

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