View Poll Results: What types of simulated/depicted child porn should be illegal?

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  • Photo shopped,cut and pasted/collage

    15 34.09%
  • Cartoons(western, anime and etc)

    9 20.45%
  • Still drawings

    10 22.73%
  • CGI/poser

    9 20.45%
  • other (please specify)

    4 9.09%
  • I do not know.

    2 4.55%
  • None of those things should be banned

    27 61.36%
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    I'm hesitant to advocate banning simulated images, even of something that we find distasteful, because I have a strong aversion to censoring something that cannot be directly linked to a causal relationship with something that harms someone else.

    Simulated child pornography is just that, simulated. No children are actually involved in it's production so the production has not harmed any children an no children are harmed in it's viewing so you cant say children were harmed by someone watching it.

    The obvious go-to response for this is "Well, it could encourage people who sexually fantasize about children to act on those fantasies." That is VERY dangerous ground that I do not feel comfortable treading for the purposes of censorship. That argument can easily be applied to a host of entirely innocent things and I think it's wrong to start blaming a medium for the reactions of it's recipients.

    By that same argument, you could charge clothing companies for having photographs of children in bathing suits because it could encourage people who already fantasize about children. You could also fault clothing stores that allow anyone to physically see or even buy children's underwear for the same reason. This is an argument that can be, completely on it's own merits, quite easily ridden to ridiculous lengths and thus should be discarded.

    Free speech (and production of pornography (real or simulated) is considered a form of free speech and protected as long as no harm comes to it's participants and they are of age) is a very tricky ground and I would feel more comfortable being too lenient about allowing things to go that maybe I have my reservations about. I feel that if I am to say I truly support free speech, then I must support it even for things I strongly dislike and disagree with. I dont like the idea of child pornography, real or simulated, but if it can be produced in such a way where no child is subjected to something they are not ready for and are not harmed by it, then I find the idea of censoring it very uncomfortable.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    As long as no actual child is involved in any of the depicted sex acts, none of it should be illegal.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    I accidentally picked "I don't know" along with my original choice of "other."

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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Anything that does not involve a child should be legal. However, porn sites that claim that they are depicting children, even if they are not, unless they have a disclaimer, should also be taken down. Also, IMO, photoshopped images should also be illegal, as they involve a child, indirectly.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Also, IMO, photoshopped images should also be illegal, as they involve a child, indirectly.
    Can you legitimately claim the child was harmed by the making of the image?
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Can you legitimately claim the child was harmed by the making of the image?
    Sure. Emotional distress/humiliation of having their face photoshopped to a nude body.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    It should be illegal to edit the picture of a child to make it look like the child is engaged in a sex act and then sell/distribute such image. That is using someone's likeness without permission.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    What types of simulated/depicted child porn should be illegal?
    Anything that is "suppose" to depict a "child" - but that cannot really be based on appearance. There has to be evidence that "this is a child" by means other than "lack pubic hair" or "small breasts" - these things are not defined or restricted by age.
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    Re: Should depicted/simulated child porn be illegal?

    No child involved = no harm

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