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I think because, at this forum, polls can be voted on by non members.
That makes no sense. I object!
I think because, at this forum, polls can be voted on by non members.
Nerdish prankster loner with poor social skills and a lack of friends and family to share their ... .. oh wait a minute .... one of us?
That would fall under 'other'.
Police are looking for a white male in his 40s.
That really narrows it down. :roll:
Police are looking for a white male in his 40s.
That really narrows it down. :roll:
All those years of studying IEDs and explosive forensics is finally paying off!
Yup it's a tea party nutcase who thinks Obama wasn't born in America.
No doubt about it.
The Nissan Pathfinder that carried a bomb into New York's Times Square was sold to an "Arabic or Latino looking" man in his 20s or 30s last month in Connecticut, authorities say the vehicle's previous owners told them.
Times Square Bomb: U.S. Officials Finding Foreign Links to New York Bomb Plot - ABC News
Just looking at the type of explosives they tried to use, and the failed detonation this has the hallmarks of a homegrown terrorist attempt.
Firstly its extremely amateurish, a hodgepodge of different types of explosives: fireworks, black powder, propane tanks, and NO shrapnel around the explosives.
None of these are particularly explosive and probably won't do much damage, in fact the SUV these were packed it would probably do more to contain the explosion than expand it. A propane tank would probably make more of a fire ball than dangerous explosion, the fireworks and black powder would do the same. Especially if the propane or fireworks were ignited first, it would blow the black powder for a split second and reduce its effectiveness.
If the the goal of this was to kill people it would have been built differently, or it means the bomb makers dont know what they are doing.
Additionally, all overseas terrorists that have come to this country have been suicide attackers, this guy ran from the vehicle after he planted it. Also most IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan these days aren't timed bombs, they are built with triggers so they can be set off at any time. I keep with IED attacks and disarmed bombs through the Army and timed explosives are very very uncommon.
Lastly homegrown terrorists tend to be more concerned about their lives than Afghan, Pakistanis, or AQ in general. If this was someone from overseas it would have almost certainly been a suicide bomber. Its also unlikely that someone sent a bomb maker to the US, those people are valuable and most are trained and experienced in converting military explosives into IEDs, not propane tanks and fireworks.
I don't know anything other than open source but in my experience and education this says homegrown terrorist, I could even see this as someone without a terrorist agenda.
Lame. I was sure this guy was either purely homegrown, maybe read some foreign material online or whatever, or just some crazy wacko with an agenda not connected to Islamic terrorism.
I was sure he was the crazy wacko.
Yes if you shoot a propane tank on its own it will not explode, and yes I'd imagine they were using bigger ones than me but the principle is the same.
In those photos I had lit a small fire and placed the propane tank inside of it, so when I punctured the tank with my rifle the gas would ignite from the fire. If there was no fire, there would be no explosion.
The propane is most often used as an initator. It goes boom very easily and the explosion detonates the remaining material - usually chemical explosive. Thats when shrapnel is created.
The shrapnel is packed with the bomb. In my experience its usually roofing nails or similar.Propane tanks aren't designed to break into pieces, plus propane is a light gas. It doesn't have a lot of push, once a hole for the gas is created thats always enough to relieve the pressure, unless its in a paper bag.
It is. It's also supposed to set of the petrol in the cars tank so that whatever comes out of the explosion is covered in burning fuel.And I would guess that a propane wouldnt be enough to set off a fertilizer bomb, and maybe not even the petrol.
They don't use those directly. However ammoniun, potassium, and nitrogen are the three active ingrediants in any fertilizer and they are in the chemical mix. You need to cook them out in order to make the explosive. How that is done is akin to making crystal meth from cough medicne. Bloody dangerous, highly toxic.But its possible I suppose. I dont really know much about fertilizer bomb, they stopped using the ammonium nitrate, I think I spelled that right, in fertilizer a long time ago.
It's not creative, its "make do". In Iraq and Afghanistan it's easier to get your hands on military grade explosive, unused 155MM shells, mortar rounds, RPG warheads etc.And I most study IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan, this NYC bomb is pretty creative