View Poll Results: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

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  • Overseas Islamic terrorist group (El Qaeda, Taliban, etc)

    10 21.74%
  • Home grown Islamic terrorist

    7 15.22%
  • Right wing, anti government group

    1 2.17%
  • Right wing, anti-governemnt individual nutcase

    4 8.70%
  • Nutcase with nutcase agenda secondary to mental illness induced delusions

    6 13.04%
  • Someone trying to disguise a crime as terrorism.

    0 0%
  • A young, nerdish prankster with poor social skills and sociopathic tendencies

    2 4.35%
  • A left winged anarchist type

    0 0%
  • Christian fanatic trying to fight sin in Times Square

    4 8.70%
  • Other, please share your theory

    12 26.09%
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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Looking at the poll, F107Hypersaber and Upsideguy ought to be feeling a bit foolish about now...

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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Yes if you shoot a propane tank on its own it will not explode, and yes I'd imagine they were using bigger ones than me but the principle is the same.

    In those photos I had lit a small fire and placed the propane tank inside of it, so when I punctured the tank with my rifle the gas would ignite from the fire. If there was no fire, there would be no explosion.
    The propane is most often used as an initator. It goes boom very easily and the explosion detonates the remaining material - usually chemical explosive. Thats when shrapnel is created.
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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    The propane is most often used as an initator. It goes boom very easily and the explosion detonates the remaining material - usually chemical explosive. Thats when shrapnel is created.
    Propane tanks aren't designed to break into pieces, plus propane is a light gas. It doesn't have a lot of push, once a hole for the gas is created thats always enough to relieve the pressure, unless its in a paper bag.

    And I would guess that a propane wouldnt be enough to set off a fertilizer bomb, and maybe not even the petrol. But its possible I suppose. I dont really know much about fertilizer bomb, they stopped using the ammonium nitrate, I think I spelled that right, in fertilizer a long time ago. And I most study IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan, this NYC bomb is pretty creative
    Last edited by Wiseone; 05-04-10 at 09:26 AM.

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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    So who won?


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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Propane tanks aren't designed to break into pieces, plus propane is a light gas. It doesn't have a lot of push, once a hole for the gas is created thats always enough to relieve the pressure, unless its in a paper bag.
    The shrapnel is packed with the bomb. In my experience its usually roofing nails or similar.

    And I would guess that a propane wouldnt be enough to set off a fertilizer bomb, and maybe not even the petrol.
    It is. It's also supposed to set of the petrol in the cars tank so that whatever comes out of the explosion is covered in burning fuel.


    But its possible I suppose. I dont really know much about fertilizer bomb, they stopped using the ammonium nitrate, I think I spelled that right, in fertilizer a long time ago.
    They don't use those directly. However ammoniun, potassium, and nitrogen are the three active ingrediants in any fertilizer and they are in the chemical mix. You need to cook them out in order to make the explosive. How that is done is akin to making crystal meth from cough medicne. Bloody dangerous, highly toxic.

    And I most study IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan, this NYC bomb is pretty creative
    It's not creative, its "make do". In Iraq and Afghanistan it's easier to get your hands on military grade explosive, unused 155MM shells, mortar rounds, RPG warheads etc.

    To tell you the truth, I'm amazed it didn't contain at least some black powder and unexpended amunition..
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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    So who won?
    Not me. I thought it was a young, unbalanced misfit. Sadly, it looks as if this crime was a response to the recent Comedy Central flap regarding the Southpark episode.

    Some of these Muslims are soooo pathetic. They are wienies and crybabies. How f-ing insecure can you get?

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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    The shrapnel is packed with the bomb. In my experience its usually roofing nails or similar.

    It is. It's also supposed to set of the petrol in the cars tank so that whatever comes out of the explosion is covered in burning fuel.

    They don't use those directly. However ammoniun, potassium, and nitrogen are the three active ingrediants in any fertilizer and they are in the chemical mix. You need to cook them out in order to make the explosive. How that is done is akin to making crystal meth from cough medicne. Bloody dangerous, highly toxic.

    It's not creative, its "make do". In Iraq and Afghanistan it's easier to get your hands on military grade explosive, unused 155MM shells, mortar rounds, RPG warheads etc.

    To tell you the truth, I'm amazed it didn't contain at least some black powder and unexpended amunition..
    Good info, great to know. Also I misread your comment about the shrapnel I thought you were saying it was coming from the tank or the car itself, since no report or news story said they found any shrapnel like nails or ball bearings inside the car.

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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    I hope every ****ing station on US TV plays that episode of South Park. Like, all day long for one whole day. And then, every printed paper and magazine in the country prints cartoons of muhammed.

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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Other, what else?
    It could be any of the listed scum, however, inept, hateful, and confused seem to be appropiate.
    If the perpetrator can be apprehended and arrested, I'd like to see it tarred, feathered and paraded down Fifth Ave, before being hung in a public square.

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    Re: Who is behind the New York Times Square car bomb?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Not me. I thought it was a young, unbalanced misfit. Sadly, it looks as if this crime was a response to the recent Comedy Central flap regarding the Southpark episode.

    Some of these Muslims are soooo pathetic. They are wienies and crybabies. How f-ing insecure can you get?
    My first thought was that it had something to do with South Park.


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