View Poll Results: Why do the poor do badly in school?

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  • lack of ability - poor can't do the work and feel stupid

    8 15.69%
  • lack of motivation - poor can't study way out of poverty

    18 35.29%
  • school is racist - not taught things important to poor's race

    1 1.96%
  • school is class-based - not taught things important to poor's class

    5 9.80%
  • schools are underfunded - don't have special programs to help the poor

    15 29.41%
  • urban schools don't attract talented teachers

    17 33.33%
  • rural schools don't attract talented teachers

    12 23.53%
  • socio-economic factors

    28 54.90%
  • gang culture

    23 45.10%
  • other... (please describe)

    23 45.10%
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Get it while you can.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    nah, those tend to be thin on plot....and absolutely no suspense...
    The build up to how stuff works is the best.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Other by a longshot.
    Underachievement is a mental state. The parents of these underachievers are themselves underachievers. It has nothing to do with ability or class structure. It has to do with a culture of mistrust of education being worth a personal investment. The idea is ingrained in these people that you don't need anything more from school than being able to count your money and read traffic signs.
    It's just plain lack of interest or caring about it. I see it every day living in the poor part of town. I grew up here and I'm bound and determined to change this culture here in the Vestal section of south Knoxville.

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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The build up to how stuff works is the best.
    Physics is under taught in high school....
    physics is critical for engineers and scientists, and to be a really good technician you should at least have a good understanding of physics.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Physics is under taught in high school....
    physics is critical for engineers and scientists, and to be a really good technician you should at least have a good understanding of physics.
    I've been wanting this for a while, haven't justified getting it yet.

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Illustrated-Guide-Home-Chemistry-Experiments/dp/0596514921/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272858987&sr=1-16]Amazon.com: Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments: All Lab, No Lecture (DIY Science) (9780596514921): Barbara Fritchman Thompson: Books[/ame]

    I'm pretty decent with amateur physics.
    Thinking about getting another book dealing with micro engine propulsion.

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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Physics is under taught in high school....
    physics is critical for engineers and scientists, and to be a really good technician you should at least have a good understanding of physics.
    That is really the nail on the head. They'd rather teach envirowhackdaddyism than real physics.

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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I believe that I am quite capable of figuring that out for myself and that my insights are no better or worse than anyone else's. However, the reason I say that is because in the end, its my responsibility.
    I find it's usually enlightening to read the views of others that I have little in common with. It tends to keep me questioning my own views, and has helped me grow alot on a personal level. It's my responsibility to form my own views and live up to them, but it's also my responsibility to not get too firmly entrenched in my own thoughts and opinions.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    That is really the nail on the head. They'd rather teach envirowhackdaddyism than real physics.
    To be honest most of the fun science carries a ton of potential for lawsuits.
    Schools can't handle that.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    For those interested in this topic, I'd recommend a book entitled Savage Inequalities: Children in America's Schools, by Jonathan Kozol.

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Inequalities-Children-Americas-Schools/dp/0060974990]Amazon.com: Savage Inequalities: Children in America's Schools (9780060974992): Jonathan Kozol: Books[/ame]

    This well-researched scholarly treatise should clear up any and all questions about why the poor do badly in school.

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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    That is really the nail on the head. They'd rather teach envirowhackdaddyism than real physics.
    Taught by movie stars, no doubt....
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