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  • lack of ability - poor can't do the work and feel stupid

    8 15.69%
  • lack of motivation - poor can't study way out of poverty

    18 35.29%
  • school is racist - not taught things important to poor's race

    1 1.96%
  • school is class-based - not taught things important to poor's class

    5 9.80%
  • schools are underfunded - don't have special programs to help the poor

    15 29.41%
  • urban schools don't attract talented teachers

    17 33.33%
  • rural schools don't attract talented teachers

    12 23.53%
  • socio-economic factors

    28 54.90%
  • gang culture

    23 45.10%
  • other... (please describe)

    23 45.10%
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I tried to get into philosophy, but I am just not that into it. I have yet to find a philosophy that I cannot poke holes in, and its usually pretty easy to do. It makes me doubt how much truth can be obtained from that approach.

    I personally think that philosophy was man's attempt at science before we figured out how to do it right.
    I like a general "how to live" philosophy.
    Confucius, Aurelius etc. are very good to read for that purpose.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I like a general "how to live" philosophy.
    Confucius, Aurelius etc. are very good to read for that purpose.
    I believe that I am quite capable of figuring that out for myself and that my insights are no better or worse than anyone else's. However, the reason I say that is because in the end, its my responsibility.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Truth.

    I think I can finish this off with a Heinlein quote.

    "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.This is known as "bad luck."

    (Thanks to megaprogman.)
    Heinlein was a smart man, I have read about everything he ever wrote, but near the end of his life he started getting a bit obsessed with sex.
    Now that I am older, I think I understand why....
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    some is rich, and some is poor
    that's the way the world is
    but i don't believe in lying back
    sayin' how bad your luck is


    (Joe Strummer RIP)
    I had me some bad luck, spent the first 18 years of my life in a bad situation.
    Once I left home, tho, it seems that the bad luck vanished...
    If you have a family that holds you back, move away from the family.....
    far away.....
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I believe that I am quite capable of figuring that out for myself and that my insights are no better or worse than anyone else's. However, the reason I say that is because in the end, its my responsibility.
    Some of it is reaffirming what I already know and other things are sometimes said in different ways that make it more clear.
    It's also interesting to see what men of lofty positions really thought of themselves.

    I do agree it is always your responsibility.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Heinlein was a smart man, I have read about everything he ever wrote, but near the end of his life he started getting a bit obsessed with sex.
    Now that I am older, I think I understand why....
    Get it while you can.
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    No. I'm quite comfortably off now thank you, but I don't resent paying taxes to fund health care, education and public services to help those less fortunate than myself.
    Nothing wrong with being grateful for what you have, and wanting others to have the same....or helping the unfortunate...
    Our little town just had a fund raiser to help a single mom, a teacher, with lukemia. Haven't heard yet how much was raised, but it was a lot. Most people are generous to those who get smacked with truly bad luck.
    Now, if she had been a crack abuser, it would have been a waste of time to do a fund raiser for her. Nobody would have shown up....
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ah there's the parasite attitude. the wealthy should be pleased to have their wealth sucked away by people who do nothing to contribute to their wealth

    from each according to their ability nonsense
    That ain't how Bush jr. got to be president....
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I bought what was supposed to be a great Jefferson biography but it's boring me to tears.
    I can't help myself to finish it.

    Now I've read all of Marcus Aurelius' Meditations.
    A very good read.

    Technical manuals can be fun to read too.
    Chemistry books and engineering theory.
    nah, those tend to be thin on plot....and absolutely no suspense...
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    Re: Why do the poor do badly in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    You cannot apply the unfolding of events in your life so to undermine another situation in the form of "laziness". Doing so makes you a disingenuous poster, and someone who does not deal in reality.
    Disagreeing with me--does not make you right, just judgmental. You are no better than I am, so cool yer jets.
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