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    Fate or free-will?

    Which do you believe in more? Are our actions shaped by fate or free-will?

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    I believe the choices we make, our free-will, fates our lives.
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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Which do you believe in more? Are our actions shaped by fate or free-will?.
    I think it is a combination of free will and instinct. I don't think our will is completely free though.

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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    Both********
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    Sometimes you get the bus and sometimes the bus gets you.

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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    Neither. There's nothing to suggest that fate is real. There's plenty to suggest that we do not have free will, but rather limited will.
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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    To me, this is a lot like the nature versus nurture debate.
    Some of both, nearly everyone agrees, is the correct answer.
    How much of one and how much of the other is the issue still being debated.

    We are all born with a set of circumstances. Some of them are immutable, and cannot be changed with any amount of effort or willpower.
    To some extent, these circumstances shape our destiny.
    This is fate.

    Obviously, free will also exists, and we are free to act upon it. But only within the prescribed boundaries of our genetics, abilities, and circumstances.

    So: some of both.

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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    It depends on how the cards are dealt.
    It then depends what you have regarding mentality, social acuity & intelligence
    Then it depends on a LOT of luck

    --If you are dealt with crap cards it makes things VERY difficult

    --BUUUUT if you have strong social skills or intelligence or common sense you have SOMETHING to work with.

    --If you are lucky (ie cousin is head guy at company or gov't position) then anything can happen
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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    If you have decent cards, poor luck and no one you know is in ANY position of power, then consider yourself stuck in retail.
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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    It helps if you have a trust fund.

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    Re: Fate or free-will?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    We are all born with a set of circumstances. Some of them are immutable, and cannot be changed with any amount of effort or willpower.
    To some extent, these circumstances shape our destiny.
    This is fate.
    Sounds more like coincidence than fate.

    Fate(n) -
    a. The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events.
    b. The inevitable events predestined by this force.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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