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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

  • No

    Votes: 99 79.2%
  • Yes, explain

    Votes: 26 20.8%

  • Total voters
    125
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WHAT!?
I couldnt possibly disagree more, IMO theres no logic to defend that at all. Your marriage is absolutely NONE OF MY BUSINESS and mine is none of yours.

This would be true if our families existed in isolation, but they do not. We have neighbors, and the way we conduct our lives affects those neighbors. Our children must grow up with their children, and when they are grown, they will take their spouses from among their neighbors. We are all bound together by civilization, and what affects one of us affects all of us.

Also to the two lonely oppressors on this board that thanked you for your post, it seems its a bit of a contradiction to me. Since you would obviously disagree with the term "everyone" dont you mean everyone BUT gays ;)

It would appear that your dog is barking up the wrong tree. I think homosexuals should be allowed and encouraged to marry. What I reject is the notion that marriage is about rights, and that we, as the State, have no business in imposing limitations on couples who wish to marry. Too many people treat marriage as trivial, and I am compelled to speak out against the further degradation of our society and its institutions by people who have adopted the poisonous and selfish doctrine that what individuals do in the privacy of their own homes has no effect on the greater society.
 
This would be true if our families existed in isolation, but they do not. We have neighbors, and the way we conduct our lives affects those neighbors. Our children must grow up with their children, and when they are grown, they will take their spouses from among their neighbors. We are all bound together by civilization, and what affects one of us affects all of us.

so basically with this train of thought you "seem" to be implying all my buisness is your buisnness?
Thank god this is not the country we live in because as peacful as I am if a person thought this way and came poking around my buisness, especially family and property they would learn real quick that its a bad move to do so and realize that its none od their buisness, the same way im sure you'd explain to me if came poking in youe buisness and proclaimed that since your may neightbor it matters and is my buisness. Im guessing you teach me fast its none of my concern what you are up to.

sorry not buying this because it way to much of a blanket statment that basically throws privacy and freedoms out the window, like i said theres no logic to support this stand on this general level


It would appear that your dog is barking up the wrong tree. I think homosexuals should be allowed and encouraged to marry. What I reject is the notion that marriage is about rights, and that we, as the State, have no business in imposing limitations on couples who wish to marry. Too many people treat marriage as trivial, and I am compelled to speak out against the further degradation of our society and its institutions by people who have adopted the poisonous and selfish doctrine that what individuals do in the privacy of their own homes has no effect on the greater society.

never said "you" were against it so you are hearing things up in your tree, i said the two lonely oppressors that thanked you.
Also reject it all you want cause you are free to do so but it is clearly about rights and YES for many things what i do in my home is none of your buisness, unless im building boms or something like that to blow you up what im doing is none of your concern. If i want to sit naked and eat icecream out of my bellybutton I am free to do so :) and you dont get a say nor should you and the day you do is the day america is dead and we become old germany.

Id love to see how you would reacted to me just going in your garage to SEE what you are doing based on the premise it effect me, how would you greet me? Im "guessing" armed, or possibly Id never even know you were there
 
so basically with this train of thought you "seem" to be implying all my buisness is your buisnness?
Thank god this is not the country we live in because as peacful as I am if a person thought this way and came poking around my buisness, especially family and property they would learn real quick that its a bad move to do so and realize that its none od their buisness, the same way im sure you'd explain to me if came poking in youe buisness and proclaimed that since your may neightbor it matters and is my buisness. Im guessing you teach me fast its none of my concern what you are up to.

sorry not buying this because it way to much of a blanket statment that basically throws privacy and freedoms out the window, like i said theres no logic to support this stand on this general level
I don't know what country you live in, but such things happen at least weekly in this country, and most likely daily, or even hourly.

That's what our current governmental system exists to do.

Direct and control our lives.

Not in the more invasive and direct manner that is obvious (or not in most cases, that is), but still...
 
I don't know what country you live in, but such things happen at least weekly in this country, and most likely daily, or even hourly.

That's what our current governmental system exists to do.

Direct and control our lives.

Not in the more invasive and direct manner that is obvious (or not in most cases, that is), but still...

I live in THIS country and sorry nobody pokes around in my buisness, not my marriage not my kids, not my property unless im breaking the law, I have no clue what you are talking about unless you are referring to meaningless things like taxes, census, credit reports

but my bedroom and livestyle and marriage is none of your business

Im talking reality, not needed government or big brother is watching you conspiracies.

Like I said you post is a perfect example of why I dont buy it because you are talking about a BLANKET statement which in reality does not apply, especially not to marriage, my kids, my house and my bedroom

also the intrusions you are talking about are GOVERNMENT ones not people
 
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so basically with this train of thought you "seem" to be implying all my buisness is your buisnness?

Everyone's business is the State's business. The State is the foundation of an orderly society, and it is the role of the State to ensure the moral order of the People.
 
Everyone's business is the State's business. The State is the foundation of an orderly society, and it is the role of the State to ensure the moral order of the People.

so which is it, that state or your buisness?
is it the stats dog in the game or your dog
Im sorry I missed the part where I said that goverment cant be in your buisness?

maybe you can answer the other uestions too while you are at it
 
I live in THIS country and sorry nobody pokes around in my business, not my marriage not my kids, not my property unless I’m breaking the law, I have no clue what you are talking about unless you are referring to meaningless things like taxes, census, credit reports

But my bedroom and lifestyle and marriage is none of your business

I’m talking reality, not needed government or big brother is watching you conspiracies.

Like I said you post is a perfect example of why I don’t buy it because you are talking about a BLANKET statement which in reality does not apply, especially not to marriage, my kids, my house and my bedroom
It's more that I consider the current levels of regulation and control farto high.

Not that I have any “government or big brother is watching you conspiracies”.

And I while I completely agree with your statement: "my bedroom and lifestyle and marriage is none of your business", I think you are incorrect in stating that “nobody pokes around in my business”.
 
It's more that I consider the current levels of regulation and control farto high.

Not that I have any “government or big brother is watching you conspiracies”.

And I while I completely agree with your statement: "my bedroom and lifestyle and marriage is none of your business", I think you are incorrect in stating that “nobody pokes around in my business”.

so then whats the argument then? :D Im lost
Government pokes around but people dont and even the ones that "try" are still wrong and its still none of their business

Im missing what the debate is about and how any of this has to do with the OP

bottom line is your marriage is still none of my business, you seem to agree so im lost to how anything else is relevant?
 
That is the words of Jesus, not me.

That pretty much summarizes the entire religious attitude. Its like saying, "hey don't look at me, that's what the carpenter with the beard and long hair said."

This entire thread becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day.
 
That pretty much summarizes the entire religious attitude. Its like saying, "hey don't look at me, that's what the carpenter with the beard and long hair said."

This entire thread becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day.

LOL I agree and the reason counter stays the same which adds to the comedy
 
so which is it, that state or your buisness?
is it the stats dog in the game or your dog
Im sorry I missed the part where I said that goverment cant be in your buisness?

We are the State. The moral order that the State is charged with upholding is our moral order.
 
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We are the State. The moral order that the State is charged with upholding is our moral order.

really, so you are changing your original statment with this rewording or do YOU all by yourself have the right to be in my business and I have the right to be in yours and how would you receive me if I choose to be in yours WITHOUT the state by my side lol

like I said early and it still stands, your marriage is none of my buisness, and barring an illegal plot, or endangerment neither is what you do in your home or bedroom.
 
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That pretty much summarizes the entire religious attitude. Its like saying, "hey don't look at me, that's what the carpenter with the beard and long hair said."

This entire thread becomes more and more hilarious with each passing day.

So what? Everyone gets their morals etc from someplace. Yours are no better than anyone else's.

What gets hilarious is that people think somehow something as subjective as morals and opinion mean something to anyone else.
 
We are the State. The moral order that the State is charged with upholding is our moral order.
I don't understand, are you speaking from the point of view of the people (who vote) or the actual government? This feels like a riddle.

Because if its from the government's point of view it sounds like dictatorship.
 
I don't understand, are you speaking from the point of view of the people (who vote) or the actual government? This feels like a riddle.

Because if its from the government's point of view it sounds like dictatorship.

No. He is saying the people are the state. We as the people charge the state with upholding our morals and laws to enforce those moral standards.

By electing officials to represent us in government, we the people are the sate.
 
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I don't understand, are you speaking from the point of view of the people (who vote) or the actual government? This feels like a riddle.

Because if its from the government's point of view it sounds like dictatorship.

exactly!

guess to some the laws only matter when they fit teir point of view, who cares about equal rights, civil rights and not discrimination, cant let those laws get in the way of forcing your own more import morals on everyone else LMAO ;)

what a joke some people are, so hypocritical, forget your fellow americans they mean nothing
 
No. He is saying the people are the state. We as the people charge the state with upholding our morals and laws to enforce those moral standards.

By electing officials to represent us in government, we the people are the sate.

The state must also uphold the rights of minorities. If the "moral' order of the majority wants to infringe on those rights, then the state must step in, and intervene.

PS Down with moral majority!!! ;)
 
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The state must also uphold the rights of minorities. If the "moral' order of the majority wants to infringe on those rights, then the state must step in, and intervene.

PS Down with moral majority!!! ;)

I agree. That does not mean it will necessarily go your way, or in a direction you like. :2razz:
 
The state must also uphold the rights of minorities. If the "moral' order of the majority wants to infringe on those rights, then the state must step in, and intervene.

Your Star dont be silly and use logic in this debate, who cares if equal and civil rights are being violated, who cares if they discriminate, their morals are more important than yours or the law or anything else and they get to force them on you has they see fit ;)
 
so hypocritical, forget your fellow americans they mean nothing

That is so funny considering the majority are not in favor of gay marriage.

So by your own standards, we can safely say you don't care about your fellow Americans. :lol:
 
I agree. That does not mean it will necessarily go your way, or in a direction you like. :2razz:

It should go the way of equal rights, thats the only moral this should be judge upon.
 
That is so funny considering the majority are not in favor of gay marriage.

So by your own standards, we can safely say you don't care about your fellow Americans. :lol:

Not really, because you aren't being denied anything.
 
It should go the way of equal rights, thats the only moral this should be judge upon.

The real world does not work that way because morals are subjective.
 
Not really, because you aren't being denied anything.

No I am not, I am just being called...

Anti American, Bigot, Hypocrite etc, etc. Because I stand up for what I believe in.

Now I know sticks and stones etc, I mean I know I am none of those. This does not make someone insulting you any better.
 
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