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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

  • No

    Votes: 99 79.2%
  • Yes, explain

    Votes: 26 20.8%

  • Total voters
    125
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ok

"You tried to tell me earlier I did not or it was wrong for me to vote against it"

Notice the word "or"

You are funny.

vote against it based on you believing its your right to be discriminative and tell two consenting adults who they can marry

NOT just vote in general LMAO sorry but you miss understood again and still are lol

see thats where the comprehension comes in, im not going to repeat my stance every time, i told you and others what i was talking about if you choice to ignore that its on you LMAO

notice your lack of comprehension and ignoring what you have already been told, just read the OP to see how wrong you are

i know im funny thanks :)
 
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well according to you, in any debate you are supposed to convince me right? so convince away

it not about agreeing and disagreeing, told you a million times that part is fine, i ridicul you because you want to discriminate, not because you simply disagree, wrong again with your assumptions

sorry dude i have also been honest 100% and i havent lied one time LMAO

this is just another desperate tactic by you because you know in reality you wont be able to defend your answers and you and your religion are in fact NOT forced to do anything with what you mentioned

I rest my case. :roll:
 
I rest my case. :roll:

thats exactly what I thought

you cant and know it because it simply isnt true in reality

:laughat:
 
vote against it based on you believing its your right to be discriminative and tell two consenting adults who they can marry

So you lied about me lying.

NOT just vote in general LMAO sorry but you miss understood again and still are lol

And yes I understood perfectly. Kind of hard to misinterpret "anti-American" because of the way you would vote.

see thats where the comprehension comes in, im not going to repeat my stance every time, i told you and others what i was talking about if you choice to ignore that its on you LMAO

I am going by exactly what you said. Sorry if you did not realize what you said.

notice your lack of comprehension and ignoring what you have already been told

Please feel free to point out my misinterpretation...

"Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american" - Centrist77

"Dont care what you believe or think that is your right i agree you just have no buisness stopping it, thats the part i said isnt american but nice try" - Centrist77

"im not arguing against you right to just vote (legally) im asking if you would thnk its right not vote against it personally. You think you have the right to oppress others and THEIR religion based on your OWN religio" - Centrist77

Now if there is nothing else. :2wave:
 
So you lied about me lying.



And yes I understood perfectly. Kind of hard to misinterpret "anti-American" because of the way you would vote.



I am going by exactly what you said. Sorry if you did not realize what you said.



Please feel free to point out my misinterpretation...

"Instead you are being selfish and think some how you are more important than others without your religious beliefs and want to FORCE yours on others. Nope not american" - Centrist77

"Dont care what you believe or think that is your right i agree you just have no buisness stopping it, thats the part i said isnt american but nice try" - Centrist77

"im not arguing against you right to just vote (legally) im asking if you would thnk its right not vote against it personally. You think you have the right to oppress others and THEIR religion based on your OWN religio" - Centrist77

Now if there is nothing else. :2wave:

your right there is nothing else because you still dont get it, im not rewriting it simply because you have comprehension issues Ive already expalined it if you dont get it thats your issue not mine :) lol

wow lmao
 
JUST an FYI
not going to say who and its no more than a "guess" but im preety sure i know who hacked the poll since it was largely in favor (80%) of no lol

Polls can be voted on by Guests... non DP members. Therefore, results where members names are not mentioned can be skewed by non-members. Being the first sub-forum on the DP mainpage, Polls gets a lot of hits from visitors.
 
I think it's perfectly fine to stop gay marriage and I would personally vote to prevent homosexual marriages (my state has already legally defined by a vote that marriage is only between one man and one woman).
1. Because of my religious convictions I believe homosexuality is a sin
2. Homosexual marriages cannot create families

Mainly I am against it because of my religious beliefs as a Bible believing Christian. I am not homophobic and nor to I hate gay people. However, I will not support something that I believe is morally wrong, and as long as my vote has the power to prevent sin from being recognized as an equal union between a man and wife then I will exercise my right to defend my beliefs.
 
Polls can be voted on by Guests... non DP members. Therefore, results where members names are not mentioned can be skewed by non-members. Being the first sub-forum on the DP mainpage, Polls gets a lot of hits from visitors.

I know thanks but i wasnt talking about vistors im talking about how you can log in, then log out and vote again as a vistor and then keep repeating that process as many times as you like,


the poll was 80% for no for a couple days then boom it was even over night with only about two new posts lol

but thats ok I said earlier that ive done like 5-6 of these polls and they always range from 79-93% Ill just have to through this one out and not us it for research
 
I think it's perfectly fine to stop gay marriage and I would personally vote to prevent homosexual marriages (my state has already legally defined by a vote that marriage is only between one man and one woman).
1. Because of my religious convictions I believe homosexuality is a sin
2. Homosexual marriages cannot create families

Mainly I am against it because of my religious beliefs as a Bible believing Christian. I am not homophobic and nor to I hate gay people. However, I will not support something that I believe is morally wrong, and as long as my vote has the power to prevent sin from being recognized as an equal union between a man and wife then I will exercise my right to defend my beliefs.

thats fine thats your right, youd be in the minority but that doesnt make you wrong.

like i said in the OP I just havent heard any good reasons in america to stop it, its discrimination plain and simple but thank you for your input
 
I know thanks but i wasnt talking about vistors im talking about how you can log in, then log out and vote again as a vistor and then keep repeating that process as many times as you like,


the poll was 80% for no for a couple days then boom it was even over night with only about two new posts lol

but thats ok I said earlier that ive done like 5-6 of these polls and they always range from 79-93% Ill just have to through this one out and not us it for research

Others have already polled Americans on the issue. [url[http://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/majority-americans-continue-oppose-gay-marriage.aspx[/url]
57% oppose gay marriage and 40% support it according to a gallup poll. Plus if you look at state elections you will see that the majority within states that had the issue voted on didn't support gay marriage either. I wouldn't really take candid internet polls as research.

thats fine thats your right, youd be in the minority but that doesnt make you wrong.

like i said in the OP I just havent heard any good reasons in america to stop it, its discrimination plain and simple but thank you for your input

Actually I am part of the majority that oppose homosexual marriages. I also believe my reasons for opposing it are valid and logical. Wouldn't it be discrimination against those that don't support it to force them to extend marital rights to a union that they hold as being sinful?
 
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2. Homosexual marriages cannot create families
That's hilarious.

Mainly I am against it because of my religious beliefs as a Bible believing Christian. I am not homophobic and nor to I hate gay people.
So are you against it personally or because a religion tells you to be against it?

However, I will not support something that I believe is morally wrong, and as long as my vote has the power to prevent sin from being recognized as an equal union between a man and wife then I will exercise my right to defend my beliefs.
See that's fair, that makes sense. Thanks.
 
Mainly I am against it because of my religious beliefs as a Bible believing Christian. I am not homophobic and nor to I hate gay people.

I'm curious - if your religion clearly told you to hate gay people, would you?
 
That's hilarious.
Last time I checked two sperms can't fertilize.
So are you against it personally or because a religion tells you to be against it?
I am against it personally because my religion is part of who I am and what I believe. Personally I am a Christian and I believe it's wrong because God is infinitely wiser than me, and He says it's wrong. My beliefs are not separate from my religion because my religion is part of who I am.
See that's fair, that makes sense. Thanks.
you're welcome :)

I'm curious - if your religion clearly told you to hate gay people, would you?
If God in His wisdom told me to hate gays then I would. But God says the opposite. So theoretically your question is pointless.
 
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I'm curious - if your religion clearly told you to hate gay people, would you?

Does not apply even hypothetically. Christianity does not teach you to hate anything other than sin. Now certain evil people have used Christianity as an excuse, but the Bible says love thy neighbor and do unto other as you would have them do unto you.
 
Others have already polled Americans on the issue. [url[http://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/majority-americans-continue-oppose-gay-marriage.aspx[/url]
57% oppose gay marriage and 40% support it according to a gallup poll. Plus if you look at state elections you will see that the majority within states that had the issue voted on didn't support gay marriage either. I wouldn't really take candid internet polls as research.

polls only work if you ask the right questions

many in my poll that vote no its not right to stop ir are in fact against it, but they understand as americans that its none of their business. If I asked simply are you for or against it of course id get different results

my question is if people think its their business and they have the right to stop two consenting adults who they can marry.

When asked that way a large majority understand no matter what they believe they shouldnt stop it because its discrimination

another example is the health care poll. when people were asked if they were happy with their health care a large majority said YES

problem is that doesnt mean much and it requires you to sk people with health care. If someone asked me that question my answer def would have been yes because of the alternative options, no health care

but if you ask me, do you think health care needs reformed, again my answer would be yes

polls are tricky, they only measure very specific things, just like stats are only fats of what they measure anything else is pure speculation

ill take polls worried properly as they fit my research. Is it right to vote agaist it and how people justify discrimination.
 
Actually I am part of the majority that oppose homosexual marriages. I also believe my reasons for opposing it are valid and logical. Wouldn't it be discrimination against those that don't support it to force them to extend marital rights to a union that they hold as being sinful?

actually you are not because thats not what i asked thats what you are saying I didnt ask who is against it

no its not discrimination against those who are against it because NOTHING changes for them lol

sinful has no barring
are you forced to support premarital sex, masturbation, or anything else your religion might oppose? no your not

your still free to think, believe, teach and preach what you want

nothing changes that its called freedom of religion and that wont go away
 
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polls only work if you ask the right questions

many in my poll that vote no its not right to stop ir are in fact against it, but they understand as americans that its none of their business. If I asked simply are you for or against it of course id get different results

my question is if people think its their business and they have the right to stop two consenting adults who they can marry.

When asked that way a large majority understand no matter what they believe they shouldnt stop it because its discrimination

another example is the health care poll. when people were asked if they were happy with their health care a large majority said YES

problem is that doesnt mean much and it requires you to sk people with health care. If someone asked me that question my answer def would have been yes because of the alternative options, no health care

but if you ask me, do you think health care needs reformed, again my answer would be yes

polls are tricky, they only measure very specific things, just like stats are only fats of what they measure anything else is pure speculation

ill take polls worried properly as they fit my research. Is it right to vote agaist it and how people justify discrimination.

but this poll isn't asking if it's ok to prevent marriage between two consenting adults, it's specifically asking about gay marriage. Polls can be worded deceptively as well. When people think "two consenting adults" I'm sure the first thing that doesn't pop into their mind is homosexual marriages or incest marriages. Most people would support a consenting man and woman from wedding and that no one has the right to stop them (assuming it isn't incest). The poll from gallup specifically addresses homosexual marriage, and the data reflects the populace's view on homosexual marriage, not about two consenting adults.

actually you are not because thats not what i asked thats what you are saying I didnt as who is against it

no its not discrimination against those who are against it because NOTHING changes for them lol

sinful has no barring
are you forced to support premarital sex, masturbation, or anything else your religion might oppose? no your not

your still free to think, believe, teach and preach what you want

nothing changes that its called freedom of religion and that wont go away

Actually, a lot changes for those that don't support it. It would mean that their government acknowledges and gives rights to something that they hold as sinful and immoral. Citizens would have to acknowledge gay people as married and be forced to treat them as such.

And I am not forced to support those other sexual sins you listed, and I do not support them which is why I believe they are wrong. However, if the state formerly declared that premarital sex and masturbation is not sinful it would.

What changes is the definition of marriage and family. All citizens would be forced to accept a union that is sinful and immoral in the eyes of the majority. You may be free to your religion, but freedom of voicing your religious opinion would be taken away if the state simply said gay marriage is OK and that everyone should deal with it.
 
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but this poll isn't asking if it's ok to prevent marriage between two consenting adults, it's specifically asking about gay marriage. Polls can be worded deceptively as well. When people think "two consenting adults" I'm sure the first thing that doesn't pop into their mind is homosexual marriages or incest marriages. Most people would support a consenting man and woman from wedding and that no one has the right to stop them (assuming it isn't incest). The poll from gallup specifically addresses homosexual marriage, and the data reflects the populace's view on homosexual marriage, not about two consenting adults.

if you read the OP it most certainly is what it is asking lol
unless you chose not to read the op and just blindly vote
 
Last time I checked two sperms can't fertilize.
Last time I checked we have adoption.

I am against it personally because my religion is part of who I am and what I believe. Personally I am a Christian and I believe it's wrong because God is infinitely wiser than me, and He says it's wrong. My beliefs are not separate from my religion because my religion is part of who I am.
Then why didn't you say that in the first place?

In that previous posts it seemed like you saying that you are against it because your religion says so, not because you personally believe it. But I guess you corrected that right?
 
2. Homosexual marriages cannot create families.

Sure they can.

Meanwhile, some hetero marriages can't create families, yet you seem completely unconcerned with them.
 
if you read the OP it most certainly is what it is asking lol
unless you chose not to read the op and just blindly vote

I voted according to the question that the poll was asking. "Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?"

Last time I checked we have adoption.
Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.
Then why didn't you say that in the first place?

In that previous posts it seemed like you saying that you are against it because your religion says so, not because you personally believe it. But I guess you corrected that right?

I guess so. Sorry if my first post sent out the wrong message.

Sure they can.

Meanwhile, some hetero marriages can't create families, yet you seem completely unconcerned with them.

The hetero marriages that can't create families aren't because it's naturally impossible, but because there is fertility issues with the man or woman.
 
Actually, a lot changes for those that don't support it. It would mean that their government acknowledges and gives rights to something that they hold as sinful and immoral. Citizens would have to acknowledge gay people as married and be forced to treat them as such.

And I am not forced to support those other sexual sins you listed, and I do not support them which is why I believe they are wrong. However, if the state formerly declared that premarital sex and masturbation is not sinful it would.

What changes is the definition of marriage and family. All citizens would be forced to accept a union that is sinful and immoral in the eyes of the majority. You may be free to your religion, but freedom of voicing your religious opinion would be taken away if the state simply said gay marriage is OK and that everyone should deal with it.

actually in REALITY it doesnt force them to do anything no matter how you twist it, it doesnt force YOU to accept premartial sex only YOU get to make that choice for yourself LMAO

the government already accepts things that are sinful to MANY religons should we stop them all???? lmao of course not, sorry nothing changes, you and you religion still get to do what you want JUST LIKE NOW

and not by any stretch of the imagination would you voicing your religious opinion be taken away, thats pure fantasy. Last I check there are still abortion rallies and people still say that is wrong, right? they still believe and teach and preach its wrong right? yes, see nothing changes

wow if you actually believe what you are saying i guess we should just do away with religion because with or without gay marriage you already dont have freedom of religion because the government forces sin on you lol

nope sorry, not true
 
ast time I checked two sperms can't fertilize.

He didn't say "procreate", he said create. A family is created just by the union of two people. The two homosexuals, once they married, automatically created a family. Adopting kids can further create more family. It is narrow minded to limit families to an man and a woman.

I am against it personally because my religion is part of who I am and what I believe. Personally I am a Christian and I believe it's wrong because God is infinitely wiser than me, and He says it's wrong. My beliefs are not separate from my religion because my religion is part of who I am.

I understand, and also honestly saddened to hear people express intolerance due to a belief in religion.

If God in His wisdom told me to hate gays then I would. But God says the opposite. So theoretically your question is pointless.

It was not pointless. The point was will you do something like that if your god told you to. You said that you would. That is horrible and perfectly makes his point. :(
 
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Yes, and adopted children deserve to be in a stable home with a mother and father, not with two dads or moms.

nothing more than opinion and the fact is there are stable homes right now with same sex parents
 
The hetero marriages that can't create families aren't because it's naturally impossible, but because there is fertility issues with the man or woman.

I'd say a fertility issue is "naturally impossible." Especially for women after menopause, which is normal and natural and not a disorder.

Yet you have no problem with letting old ladies marry.
 
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