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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it?

  • No

    Votes: 99 79.2%
  • Yes, explain

    Votes: 26 20.8%

  • Total voters
    125
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No it would not. It would not be a marriage, it would be a civil union.

Sorry you are not getting any legitimacy from me.



How would giving them equal protection under the law be discriminatory? That's bull**** and you know it.

it would be the same I dont need you legitimacy for marriage LMAO thats already true lol

it can EASILY be discrimination simply by not calling it the same and thats a fact and YOU know it, thats not even up for debate.

I like using this funny EXTREME example.
Why yes Mr Obama you did get elected president BUT were not going to call you president were going to call you something else, it will have all the same powers as president but we cant call you that but when the ext guy that think fits are made up standards gets elected we will go back to calling him president. Now yes this is just a humor example but anybody with sense can clearly see how thats discrimination LOL Like I said thats not even up for debate
 
I was an atheist.



It has nothing to do with bigotry at all. It has to do with 2 male or females don't make a marriage no matter how you slice it. Never did and it never will.

You can believe what you want, but everyone has bigotry's of some type. I think yours are much worse than mine. ;)

100% false qnd a lie, same sex marriage has been around for close to 2000 years
 
100% false qnd a lie, same sex marriage has been around for close to 2000 years

I am talking about in the US. Next time read the lead up before jumping to false conclusions.
 
it would be the same I dont need you legitimacy for marriage LMAO thats already true lol

Not according to the law it's not. :lol:

it can EASILY be discrimination simply by not calling it the same and thats a fact and YOU know it, thats not even up for debate.

Yes it is. It is part of the entire picture. You can deny it if you want but you want it to legitimize homosexuality.

You and people like you don't give a rats ass about the benefits or the family.

I like using this funny EXTREME example.
Why yes Mr Obama you did get elected president BUT were not going to call you president were going to call you something else, it will have all the same powers as president but we cant call you that but when the ext guy that think fits are made up standards gets elected we will go back to calling him president. Now yes this is just a humor example but anybody with sense can clearly see how thats discrimination LOL Like I said thats not even up for debate

Nice fallacy. :mrgreen:
 
LMAO wow what a waste of a post but its still not sound or logical and it is arrogant and it is also hypocritical but you believe what you want, I like how you provided proof in your very own post. Like I said Im still waiting for anybody to come up with one your not anybody else has yet no matter how much you call it BS lol

I proved nothing in my argument is anything like what you are trying to say it is.

Fact is you are guilty of all of that and more.

Your lack of any decent response pretty much spells that out.
 
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I am talking about in the US. Next time read the lead up before jumping to false conclusions.

in the us is meaningless if you are defining a term LOL
 
1.)Not according to the law it's not. :lol:



2.) Yes it is. It is part of the entire picture. You can deny it if you want but you want it to legitimize homosexuality.

You and people like you don't give a rats ass about the benefits or the family.



3.)Nice fallacy. :mrgreen:

1.)actually it is, im not talking gay marriage im talking bout any marriage, marriage doesnt need "your" legitimacy lol some people and religions already dont legitimize other types or marriages, its meaningless to the debate lol

2.) huh, actually my ONLY concern is equal rights and stopping discrimination. what ever other drivel you want to make up feel free anything you want to know about me ask or continue to ASSume :D

3.)thanks I know :D but thats all you can say because you know for a fact its discrimination theres no debating that
 
I proved nothing in my argument is anything like what you are trying to say it is.

Fact is you are guilty of all of that and more.

Your lack of any decent response pretty much spells that out.

you actually didnt prove anything at all LMAO
by posting the definitions i can draw direct lines to your opinion and how they match all of those descriptions lol I was actually shocked you went there. It was halarious it was like seeing the little kid with chocolate all over his face saying "i didnt eat the chocolate cake" when the evidence is very obvious ;)
 
Wow. 58-58. God bless America. Remind me again why we aren't two countries?
 
Wow. 58-58. God bless America. Remind me again why we aren't two countries?

HAHAHAHA the poll has been tampered with LOL it was hovering around 80% no for days until someone didnt like that and cheated it

ive done like 5 0r 6 or these and they all were about the same ranging from 79-93% for no
 
In other words you got nothing. Thanks for that. :roll:

your welcome :2razz:I dont need anything more lol it be like proving to you 2 + 2 = 4, for what its a waste of time and whether you believe it or not its still true
 
1.)actually it is, im not talking gay marriage im talking bout any marriage, marriage doesnt need "your" legitimacy lol some people and religions already dont legitimize other types or marriages, its meaningless to the debate lol

So is not using punctuation and "lol" all over the place. :mrgreen:

Seriously, it is part of it for many. It is also part of this debate whether you like it or not.

2.) huh, actually my ONLY concern is equal rights and stopping discrimination. what ever other drivel you want to make up feel free anything you want to know about me ask or continue to ASSume :D

What? :doh

3.)thanks I know :D but thats all you can say because you know for a fact its discrimination theres no debating that

OK. here we go again.

It is a ridicules red herring, nothing more.
 
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you actually didnt prove anything at all LMAO
by posting the definitions i can draw direct lines to your opinion and how they match all of those descriptions lol I was actually shocked you went there. It was halarious it was like seeing the little kid with chocolate all over his face saying "i didnt eat the chocolate cake" when the evidence is very obvious ;)

You can think that al you like. Does not matter to me.

Fact is I know my mind better than you. That is unless you are psychic?

Tell me what am I thinking now?
 
your welcome :2razz:I dont need anything more lol it be like proving to you 2 + 2 = 4, for what its a waste of time and whether you believe it or not its still true

OK, you are getting incoherent.

Have a nice evening. :2wave:
 
1.)So is not using punctuation and "lol" all over the place. :mrgreen:

Seriously, it is part of it for many. It is also part of this debate whether you like it or not.



2.)What? :doh



OK. here we go again.

It is a ridicules red herring, nothing more.

1.) its actually not no matter how you want to try and twist it, right now marriages go on everyday that others wont legitimize it doesnt matter, thats just a plan fact. Saying it matter is just desperate klinging to something in a weak attempt to justify you stance but at the end of the day its still meaningless and discrimination.

2.) thats what i thought

3) see above

:kissy:
 
OK, you are getting incoherent.

Have a nice evening. :2wave:

typical, flee flee
fly far far away, come back when you get that egg off your face :2wave:
 
1.) its actually not no matter how you want to try and twist it, right now marriages go on everyday that others wont legitimize it doesnt matter, thats just a plan fact. Saying it matter is just desperate klinging to something in a weak attempt to justify you stance but at the end of the day its still meaningless and discrimination.

2.) thats what i thought

3) see above

:kissy:

It is very hard to understand what you are typing. My grammar is bad but yours is even worse. Is English your first language? Not chiding you just wondering if you are in Pittsburgh, why the broken English?
 
typical, flee flee
fly far far away, come back when you get that egg off your face :2wave:

This is the internet. Nothing on my face.

If winning on an Internet debate board where no one was convinced. No one cared and it changed nothing is your idea of victory. Then the gay rights movement is dead. :lol:
 
It is very hard to understand what you are typing. My grammar is bad but yours is even worse. Is English your first language? Not chiding you just wondering if you are in Pittsburgh, why the broken English?

LMAO
nice try but theres nothing really wrong with it. I type fast so I leave stuff out or mix word order up sometimes. I also respond most times like we are actually talking verbally but other than that I think your just being dramatic :)
 
This is the internet. Nothing on my face.

If winning on an Internet debate board where no one was convinced. No one cared and it changed nothing is your idea of victory. Then the gay rights movement is dead. :lol:

Ha!

"winning"
not all debates are about "winning", I certainly am not trying to win anything or trying to convince anybody of anything. The point was to convince me, I have no clue how you dont see that. I want somebody to give me a reason that wasnt all those earlier mention things and prove it wouldnt be discrimination. Nobody has done that.

also theres egg on your face for sure, i see it like I bet most do reading the thread but no big deal just make an omelet.

Off topic do you know omelet is the ghetto word of he day?

example: I should smack the hell out of you but omelet that $hit slide hahahahaha
 
This is the internet. Nothing on my face.

If winning on an Internet debate board where no one was convinced. No one cared and it changed nothing is your idea of victory. Then the gay rights movement is dead. :lol:

You are a very naive individual when it comes to what makes marriage.

I have met married gay couples who have been together for years, raised children together, and stuck together through everything any married couple could possibly go through. I have also met married heterosexual couples where one partner beats the other, abuses the children, and leaves the family once things get tough.

If you think the gender of the individuals who make up a marriage matters anywhere near as much as their commitment to one another, then you have no conception of what marriage is or what it represents.
 
LMAO
nice try but theres nothing really wrong with it. I type fast so I leave stuff out or mix word order up sometimes. I also respond most times like we are actually talking verbally but other than that I think your just being dramatic :)

Yes their is, it is hard to understand and you sound like you are babbling. But you explained it, you just don't care.

No problem was just wondering, has nothing to do with being dramatic. :roll:
 
You are a very naive individual when it comes to what makes marriage.

I have met married gay couples who have been together for years, raised children together, and stuck together through everything any married couple could possibly go through. I have also met married heterosexual couples where one partner beats the other, abuses the children, and leaves the family once things get tough.

If you think the gender of the individuals who make up a marriage matters anywhere near as much as their commitment to one another, then you have no conception of what marriage is or what it represents.

I have been married to the same person for many years. I have an adult daughter who is married and an engineer, she has my grand daughter.

I would say I know exactly what goes into a good marriage. :2wave:

PS I have been married 1 time.

I live by the rules I set for myself, so how anyone can call it hypocritical is just laughable.
 
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100% false qnd a lie, same sex marriage has been around for close to 2000 years

Try a few million years:

Eventually, an important phase occurred. Isolated hordes began to relate to each other and exogamy predominated. Kinship groups or tribes developed, each with a strong identity and a symbolic totem. A totem is a symbolic plant or animal vested with mythological and spiritual significance. At first, in the early kinship phase, which existed before the development of agriculture but after the discovery of fire, marriages likely occurred within the social structure of the clan or tribe. No distinct isolated family units existed. Evidence for this epoch and subsequent prehistoric one comes from studies of isolated indigenous peoples during the nineteenth century. Although the conclusions from this type of inductive reasoning must remain hypothetical, the lifestyles of many indigenous peoples throughout the world lend credence to these ideas. It appears that marriage in this early kinship phase represented pure economic exploitation of women. They would stay home and guard the fires and raise the children while the men were out hunting. There is rigid division of labor in this phase, with men dominating, usually brutally, while the women were their slaves. In this phase, the men were organized and bonded, the women were not. Likely representing this phase of social organization were the Australian Aborigines, Eskimos, Hill-Veddahs, Bushmen, Andamanese, Fuegians and Tasmanians.

With the development of agriculture about ten thousand years ago, a remarkable change occurred in human societies. This period, characterized as the full kinship or tribal phase, is highlighted by the high position of women. In fact, women were organized and dominated tribal life. In this phase, womens' collective position was the best at anv stage of human cultural development, including modern times. With the development of agriculture, women attached themselves to the soil, while men continued to hunt. Women produced and maintained the staple foods of the tribe. The women owned both the fields and the crops produced. They became highly organized in the kinship groups, dominating them. These matriarchal clans dissolved marriage in its earliest form giving women more freedom, status and authority. The tribe predominates in matriarchy while marriage and family are insignificant. People identify themselves as belonging to their mother's tribe. A husband remains with his own tribe and a wife with hers. He must win her and keep her by ongoing service- hunting or helping clear the fields. The women can decide on forming and ending marriages. The husband will visit his wife's home at times and spend the night with her. The children produced are the wife's, never his.
History of Marriage
 
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